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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mandatory Permit Directives....multitude of paperwork.....?
From: Peter Jeffers <pjeffers@talktalk.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:44:30
Hi Bob,

Sorry if I missed your point. I may now do the same again, so apologies 
in
advance.


Firstly I am only an inspector so cannot directly influence the PFA/CAA 
as
to their requirements.  All I can do is try to interpret what they say 
they
want!


Now as an inspector all I can do is say what I would want entered in the 
log
book re the recent MPD=92s is as follows:-


1.                   In the main body of the book one entry to say that 
MPD
=85.005 and MPD=85006 (including very brief description like 
=91tailplane
attachment=92 or =91integrity of wing attachment=92) have been complied 
with
together with an approved signature.

2.                   In the pink pages at the back, one entry each  for 
=85005
& ..006.   =85005 annotated recurring @ 10 hr intervals and =85.006, one 
time.


The two above items are completely separate and independent of Mods 72, 
73 &
74.  It does not matter which items are entered first provided they are
correctly dated.


I am not aware of any change in the requirements concerning inspection 
or
maintenance of the nose wheel.  Suffice it to say that amongst many 
other
things this area requires close inspection at DI, annual, or following 
any
incident.


Re the cart & horse bit, I think we will always find situations where 
this
becomes a requirement to =91cover a...e=92! Hopefully this 10 hr thing 
will
moderate to a more lenient period before too long, leaving the pilot to
check for him/herself on a day to day basis.


Pete


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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
R.C.Harrison
Sent: 19 August 2007 18:50
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mandatory Permit Directives....multitude of
paperwork.....?


Hi! Peter,

Thanks for the reply to my question.

Basically you have related the situation I had understood but 
unwittingly
skirted my real concern.

Let me put it another way:-

My question concerns the matter of recording in the airframe book ,   
Since
my aircraft has been grounded since May 28th 2006 due to the nose wheel
departure accident (which incidentally I have seen no recommendation
concerning the friction shimmy adjustment /checks since?)

it has now been re-engined and fitted with a new prop. all of which has
effectively actioned all the accident repairs that were necessary.

At the end of this re-build process all three mods =8572,73, 74 have 
been
signed off as satisfactorily completed =85.to the question=85.is it 
necessary to
write up details of the MPD=92s since the aforementioned mod approvals 
would
therefore be in the vexed book IN FRONT OF THE MPD=92s ?

I understand the 10 hour inspection requirements but it seems somewhat 
=93cart
and horse=94 to now write up the MPD=92s ?


Further :- 


Obviously it seems to me somewhat wasteful of PFA inspectors time and 
our
expense to continue with the 10hour inspections especially with my 
torque
tube clamp mod having been fitted too?  

I respect that the purpose of the inspections was in the interests of 
our
safety but surely there now comes circumstance and time to waive the
necessity for continuance albeit with some specific requirements of P1
pre-flight inspections/walk round.


Regards

Bob Harrison G-PTAG


Robt.C.Harrison


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter 
Jeffers
Sent: 19 August 2007 15:39
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mandatory Permit Directives....multitude of
paperwork.....?


Hi Bob,


Our illustrious Safety Officer has requested that I, as Club PFA 
Inspector,
reply to your posting.


As I interpret the requirements, MPD 2007-006 (integrity of wing
attachments, CLASSICS only) is a one off inspection, which if the a/c
passes, may be signed off once and for ever.  If the a/c does not pass 
this
inspection then it must be grounded forthwith and reference must be made 
to
Europa 2004 for guidance of how to fix the problem.  In this instance 
MPD
2007-006 may not be signed off until such appropriate rectification is
carried out.  

MOD 74 has to be incorporated within 10 hrs from 1st Aug, but in itself 
does
not provide rectification for any fault shown up in the 006 directive. 


MPD 2007- 005, which refers to tail plane attachment, has to be repeated
once every 10 flight hours after the initial successful inspection.  
There
is no relief from this requirement at present.  If the a/c failed the
initial MPD 2007-005 inspection then it has to be grounded until such 
time
as suitable rectification work has been approved by Europa 2004/PFA, 
carried
out and signed off by a PFA inspector.  

If the initial failure notice was due only to non compliant pip pin 
holes
then Mod 73 allowed the a/c to fly once more but still requires 10 hr
repetitive checking of the other items covered by the directive.

If failure was due to any of the other items mentioned, eg movement of 
TP9
on the torque shaft or excessive movement of the TP12=92s then once more 
the
a/c has to be grounded until such time as  this fault can be rectified. 
Even
then it is still subject to repetitive 10 checks as per MPD 2007-005.


We all hope that a route forward will soon be forthcoming from 
PFA/Europa
2004 which will increase the period or remove the requirement all 
together.


So in short, carrying out the Mods73 & 74 does not eliminate the 
requirement
for 10hr tailplane attachment checks.


I know it is not the answer you wanted but I hope it helps.


Pete Jeffers   PFA Insp.

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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
R.C.Harrison
Sent: 18 August 2007 10:57
Subject: Europa-List: Mandatory Permit Directives....multitude of
paperwork.....?


Hi! All and particularly our illustrious Safety Officer Mike Gregory.


Having now completed mods 72/73/74, not withstanding the necessity for 
10
hourly inspections continuing, if those mods are signed off by the 
Inspector
does the MPD=92s still need entering and signing off in the airframe log 
book
or can it be assumed that the mods being signed off superedes the 
necessity
to enter up the MPD=92s?  =85=85=85paper and more paper=85=85..


Regards 


Robt.C.Harrison


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