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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa colours
From: Rob Housman <robh@hyperionef.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:02:08
Sorry Raimo, but this is dangerous thinking for those of us flying in 
warmer
climes.


In my previous post I deliberately avoided getting into too much 
technical
detail, and I used the word =93reflected=94 where I should have used the
technically correct term =93emitted.=94  


First, you seem to misunderstand heat transfer.  You are correct that 
the
sun=92s energy is not reflected from a black surface.  However, a 
=93black body=94
is not only a perfect absorber but also a perfect emitter, which is to 
say
it may not be reflecting solar heating but it surely emits it.  Park on 
a
black surface and the solar energy absorbed by that surface will be
re-radiated to the underside of the aircraft, and if that aircraft is 
any
color but white it will absorb too much energy.  Any material absorbing
energy will increase in temperature.  Sure, there will be some 
re-radiation
---From the dark aircraft structure but that is irrelevant because the
epoxy-fiberglass will already have softened.


Second, the Lancair aircraft all use a different composite than Europa.
Here=92s how Lancair describes their composites on their web site
http://www.lancair.com/Main/legacy.html  ---


=93Like every Lancair, the Legacy=92s major airframe is constructed of 
advanced
composite materials. Cured at 270 degrees Fahrenheit under vacuum 
pressure,
these NASA tested, epoxy based composites are among the lightest, 
strongest,
stiffest materials known.


The high-temperature, pre-impregnated carbon fiber and/or fiberglass 
systems
combined with Nomex/honeycomb core materials are considered the supreme
composite airframe materials of choice worldwide.=94


Note that the Lancair=92s composites are cured at a much higher 
temperature
than the factory and we cure the Europa structural components.  The 
=93glass
transition temperature=94 is approximately the cure temperature so 
softening
of the composite does not begin until approximately T sub g is reached.  
For
a detailed explanation to T sub g see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_transition_temperature  For our 
purposes
we can consider the glass transition temperature the softening 
temperature,
above which the structure loses a significant portion of its strength.


Anyone contemplating painting a Europa any color other than white 
(including
yellow) should review the chart in the Builders Manual, Figure 1,
Colour-Temperature Relationship, on page 36-1 of the Europa XS Tri-Gear
Manual, Issue 1, dated 30 May 1998.  


Best regards,


Rob Housman

Irvine, California

Europa XS Tri-Gear

S/N A070

Airframe complete


From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo 
Toivio
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa colours


Rob,


I am not going to encourage anybody to paint their

Europa=B4s undersides any colour but white. I still well

remember Manual=B4s words: all the Europas must be white.


I still have to point out the energy of the sun is NOT

reflecting out of the black asphalt IMHO. That is why

it is hot when a sunny day. It absorbs allmost all the heat 

energy and nothing is reflecting out. White surfaces are

cool because they are reflecting out much more.


So it could be more dangerous to keep it on the snow covered

surface while a sunny day (or on white sand or water w Europa floats!).


In Sweden there has been 10 years a wonderful full colour mid red 
Lancair
320

and no composite problems at all. Register # is SE-XOP (!). And like

we all know in South America (Columbia?) there is flying a total deep 
yellow
Europa.


I think - with other colour as white - it is better to be even more 
careful.


Beauty is a good reason for some extra work and some sacrifice.

That is the fact all the women know. That is all.


"Keep your full matt black Europa in the hangar and fly only night time 
if
you wanna be absolutely sure"


Raimo  

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Rob Housman <mailto:robh@hyperion-ef.com>  


Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:32 AM

Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa rules


Mike '


In re: dark paint


Don=92t even think about it.  Where we live and fly, on warm days the 
heat
reflected off the ramp will be sufficient to soften the epoxy-fiberglass
enough to reduce the strength of the structure.  Sure it will be OK at
altitude but you still have to climb away from the surface.  Folks 
flying
closer to the Arctic Circle don=92t have to worry about getting the 
airframe
too hot.


Best regards,


Rob Housman

Irvine, California

Europa XS Tri-Gear

S/N A070

Airframe complete


From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
DuaneFamly@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa rules


Raimo,


Congratulations to you and your aircraft. I think we can all stand a 
little
taller and more proud when one of "our" planes tops the list of all in 
an
entire country.


Do you have any pix of you panel? Is the underside of your aircraft 
really
painted dark? Black, blue, brown? Any reasoning for this?


Mike Duane A207A
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Jabiru 3300 
Sensenich R64Z N
Ground Adjustable Prop


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