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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailplane design
From: Europa List <n914va@bvunet.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:02:31
No, I was refering to TP-4 And TP-6, but I was totally wrong in my 
thinking. Ther is no need to even continue the discussion. I am 
embarassed by my stupidity at times, this being one of them.
Vaughn

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Wickens 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:50 PM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailplane design


  Vaughn
  It would certainly have more bearing surface which is good but if you 
do mean TP12 how would you get it through the TP11 bearing?
  Tony
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Brian Davies 
    To: europa-list@matronics.com 
    Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:13 PM
    Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tailplane design


    Vaughn,

    Are you sure you mean TP6 retention?  My understanding is that a 
tight fit at TP6 is not desireable because it can transfer loads to TP6 
if there is play at other points in the sytem and this can lead to TP6 
disbonding from the tail plane.

    Your method may be more appropriate at the TP12/ TP14 locations, 
which is, I suspect what you really meant.

    Regards

    Brian Davies


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    From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa List
    Sent: 29 June 2007 15:45
    To: europa-list@matronics.com
    Subject: Europa-List: Tailplane design


    The person that started my kit did not have faith in the tail plane 
design, nor do I. He designed and built a pinned clamping system that 
fits inside the fuselage that would prevent any play from developing due 
to wear. I don't feel that the retention between TP-4 and Tp-6 tubes to 
be adequate because of the thin wall. If any play at all was present at 
assembly, it seems that the slight movement would increase the size of 
the holes to where it became excessive. I've attached a PDF file ofwhat 
I would like to do to change it, but am not sure that it can be done 
with 100% realiability. Maybe there are some engineers out there that 
can. The 3/8" modification has not been done, so the idea of drilling 
out slightly smaller than 3/8" and driving increasingly larger pins 
through to expand the holes to 3/8" while work hardening them seems to 
be my other recourse. BTW, my old Sears garden tractor used the same 
method of attaching the front axle to the frame as the present system of 
a pin through thin walled metal and assembly that had worn so badly in 
one year that it was hard to steer and impossible to mow evenly. I took 
the axle off and had a tube welded in it and collars welded to the frame 
and was able to get 8 years of satifactory service from it until the 
motor gave up.

    I have pictures of the clamp collars made and installed in my kit by 
the previous builder if anyone is interested.

    Vaughn Teegarden
    N914VA - no progress

    AVG Free Date: 28/06/2007 17:57


    28/06/2007 17:57


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