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Subject: SV: Europa-List: What's up with the cost of 914?
From: Alex Kaarsberg <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:51:19
Duncan,


I=92ve always had a thing for torqey long-legged low-revving engines so 
that
would be one tradeoff=85(-:

No ignition is another and many places you can get good diesel where no 
gas
can be bought for money=85I expect there will be no valves and 
associated
gear, so less parts to go wrong.

I=92ve been told the 93 kg=92s are dry, which I took for just =91=92add 
water and
stir=92=92?


Alex #529=85hoping to finish under the 800 pound mark=85


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Ami
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Sendt: 7. juni 2007 20:11
Til: europa-list@matronics.com
Emne: Re: Europa-List: What's up with the cost of 914?


<<...has anybody done any evaluation to use it in an Europa?>>


Yes (albeit on the 100kg prototype). 

It's too heavy, unless you are prepared to compromise other aspects of 
the
overall EUropa performance profile. The quoted weight is bare engine 
less
its installation (radiators, water, mount etc etc).


But what would be the benefit of the trade-off of other factors? Unless 
you
just keen to run it on cheap and sustainable rape oil!


Duncan McF.

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From: Alexander <mailto:kaarsber@terra.com.br>  Kaarsberg 


Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:26 PM

Subject: Re: Europa-List: What's up with the cost of 914?


Graham,


I guess I could have figured that out if I had engaged the brain before
writing...what with two cranks and all- but is there a reduction or not,
that is more an issue I think....more to the point, has anybody done any
evaluation to use it in an Europa?

I know a new unproven engine is worse than being in sahara with no map, 
but
new developments do happen and sometimes they come our way.


Alex, kit 529


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Re: Europa-List: What's up with the cost of 914?


> 

> Alexander

> there is a gearbox. It has two crankshafts which need to be geared 

> together. It's like the old Junkers Jumo (??) engine of WW2 but 

> horizontal instead of vertical

> Graham

> 

> Alexander Kaarsberg wrote:

> > I have recently heard of Diesel Air Limited (dair.co.uk) that is 
said to


> > weigh in at 93 kg- the site looks fine but has ''UKL on 
application'' 

> > under the heading price.

> > 

> > Can anybody enlighten those in the dark about this beast?

> > 

> > Two stroke flat four opposed-pistons, sounds as if could be simple 

> > enough to work well- and noo gearbox...cruising at 2000 rpm, reminds 
me 

> > of my old BSA one pot 500cc, (B33) a put per lightpole in fourth 
gear or
so

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > Alex, kit 529 in wraps waiting for a good engine, instruments, paint 
and


> > the million other minor things like closing wings and fitting the 
other 

> > flap and aileron.

> > 

> > *

> > 

> > 

> > *

> 

> -- 

> Graham Singleton

> 

> Tel: +441629820187

> Mob: +447739582005

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