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Re: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono

Subject: Re: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono
From: William Mills <william@wrmills.plus.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:28:06
Yes, that is the exact route.  A nice gentle curve against the tunnel 
wall from the master cylinder forwards and down to the top of the 
swinging arm passing inside the rudder cables.  Most Monos have rotated 
the slave cylinder rear-wards, so that it is horizontal when the U/C is 
retracted; inline with the forks.  It is less vulnerable when on the 
ground and is out of the slipstream when retracted.  No problems with 
the redo.
Regards,
William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Hickling 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:35 AM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono


  Thanks William. Did you route yours along the wall of the tunnel going 
forward from the master cylinder? I have considered this routing - 
forward and down from the master cylinder, crossing the rudder cable 
just behind the tufnol rubbing block and against the tunnel wall (my 
rudder cables are in nylaflow tubing anyway). Then a gentle curve 
passing a little behind the swing arm bearings, then back down the swing 
arm. As you say, my cable is just long enough for this route. And I'll 
avoid cable ties!

  No problems with your redo?

  Regards,
  Keith.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Mills 
    To: europa-list@matronics.com 
    Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:18 PM
    Subject: Re: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono


    Keith et al,
    I know of at least two Europa Monos that lost all braking owing to a 
leak in the brake pipe, because the brake pipes were retained by plastic 
cable ties.  Apparently the cable ties eventually wear through the nylon 
and release all the brake pressure when it is needed!  I replaced mine 
before it happened, but this time I routed the pipe to cut the corner, 
i.e. the bend is inside the swinging arm pivot point.  This way I can 
keep a check on the whole length of pipe and I also use rubber lined "P" 
clips to retain it in position and a sleeve of split silicone tube to 
protect it where it might rub on the walls of the U/C tunnel.  If you 
consider routing yours this way, I would expect your pipe is long 
enough.
    Regards,
    William
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Keith Hickling 
      To: Eurpoa List 
      Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:02 AM
      Subject: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono


      Evening all,
      Can someone please help me with the routing of the brake hose? The 
manual says to rout it from the brake caliper up the swing arm, forward 
of the LG08 retraction arms and over the top of the large horizontal 
tube of the LG mounting frame that the LG09 shaft goes through, up to 
the top of the tunnel and back to the master cylinder.

      But my hose is 15 - 20 cm too short for that routing. It is 121 cm 
long from the screw fittings, and this is not long enough even to go 
directly from the master cylinder directly forward to the large tube on 
the LG mounting frame and directly back to the slave cylinder. Roger 
Bull tells me that 121 cm is the standard length. So have I 
misunderstood the manual? Has anyone else had this problem? Can someone 
with it accessible please measure the length of their hose for me?

      Thanks,

      Keith Hickling,
      New Zealand,
      Kit 613


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