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Re: Europa-List: Thoughts on rudder trim needed?

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thoughts on rudder trim needed?
From: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:52:50

All you need for any trim is a Gurney Flap. Just a short piece of foam 
or balsa stuck under the trailing edge on one side to deflect that 
surface up, (or sideways if rudder)
Do a Google on Gurney flaps.
btw Your elevator trim tab has Gurney flaps both sides to cut through 
the boundary layer.
Graham

GLENN CROWDER wrote:
> 
> 
>  I sure don't need rudder trim on mine.  Flies very straight at all 
> speeds with no rudder
> trim tab.  When I fly with a 200 lb passenger, I can just rest my left 
> foot on the rudder
> pedal to counteract small right roll tendency.  For long flights with a 
> passenger, I have
> a small bolt on rudder trim tab but I haven't even used it in 3 years.  
> Lots of extra
> complication for no benefit!
> 
>                                                       Glenn
> 
>> From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>> Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Europa-List: Thoughts on rudder trim needed?
>> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:48:50 -0000
>>
>>
>> Our Monowheel XS with a 914 and Airmaster has both short and long wings.
>> Will have servo trim tab for roll on both.  Will fly short first for a
>> while.
>>
>>
>> I was wondering if I could get opinions on rudder trim.
>>
>> Is it worth it to install inflight adjustable trim?
>>
>> Or is it possible that somehow we managed to build an airframe where both
>> sets of wings would need no rudder trim? Flies straight in thermal 
>> soaring
>> mode with long wings, as well as heavy fast short wing flight.
>>
>> Or if rudder trim is needed it is more of a fuse thing, and if needed a
>> double sticky tab is all that is needed and would work on both short and
>> long, and for the most part rudder trim is just not that speed sensative?
>>
>> If there was a slight difference between short and long, a calibrated by
>> eyecrometer bend on tab, or added 1/2 of a flettner strip for a given 
>> wing
>> makes the most sense?
>>
>> Anyone have an inflight adjustable rudder trim that they think is a great
>> feature? Like have an airplane that at different speeds requires 
>> different
>> rudder trim and being able to adjust just adds to the pleasure of flyin?
>> If yes what is dimensions of trim tab you use with how much deflection?
>>
>> Thx.
>> Ron Parigoris
>>
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