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RE: Europa-List: EIS versus Steam Gauges

Subject: RE: Europa-List: EIS versus Steam Gauges
From: KARL HEINDL <kheindl@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:26:57

Yes, that is correct, but I am only using the two for backward-forward.


From: "Kevin Klinefelter" kevann@gte.net 
Subject: RE: Europa-List: EIS versus Steam Gauges 
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:11:06 -0700 

-- Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" kevann@gte.net 

Karl, is that "three extra wires" the way you ordered the unit from Grand 
Rapids? 
Kevin 

-----Original Message----- 
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of KARL HEINDL 
Subject: Re: Europa-List: EIS versus Steam Gauges 

-- Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" kheindl@msn.com 


Carl, 


I have no idea what your problem might be. My EIS is wired to the main bus 
and that seems to work fine. In fact, it is important to me to be able to 
check the oil pressure when I crank the engine, especially after an oil 
change. 


New users should also note that there is no extra charge for 3 extra wires, 
which allow you to have parallel switches for the push buttons. I use the 
left/right buttons on the MAC grip to scroll through the menus. 


Karl 


From: "Carl Pattinson" carl_p@ntlworld.com 
Subject: Re: Europa-List: EIS versus Steam Gauges 
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:56:46 +0100 

-- Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" carl_p@ntlworld.com 

If you fit an EIS just make sure you have a means to isolate it from the 
main bus during startup. We have found that if the EIS is not switched off 
on startup (starter cranking) the spikes often scramble the memory and 
alarms which take about 20 mins to reset again. The worst thing is the reset 
ususlly causes the screen contrast to go to zero and then everything becomes 
impossible to ajust until the screen contrast can be increased (ie: the 
display appears to go blank). 

I would suggest that a momentary disconnect button is fitted close to the 
starter switch so that temporary isolation can be effected, though a more 
sophisticated setup could include an isolator solenoid connected to the 
starter solenoid. 

An manually operated isolator switch (which is what we have) is not a very 
satisfactory solution as its very easy to leave it on during startup and 
also easy to forget to turn it back on after startup. 

Our EIS is currently playing up in that the oil pressure and temp readings 
are jumping about by a couple of degrees/ PSI. We suspect this is possibly a 
prelude to the oil pressure sensor failing which I believe is a common 
problem with Rotax 912 engines (unless someone else has a better 
explanation). 

It would be nice to have the luxury of both analogue and digital readings 
but not very practical. 

Otherwise the EIS is very good and we would recommend it.Ours is the Grand 
Rapids version. 

CarlDot 
G-LABS 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JohnPaddy Wigney" johnwigney@worldnet.att.net 
Subject: Europa-List: EIS versus Steam Gauges 


 -- Europa-List message posted by: JohnPaddy Wigney 
johnwigney@worldnet.att.net 

 From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us 
 Subject: Europa-List: EIS 
 Anyone ot there flying with just an EIS with no Engine Steam Gauges and 
find it 
 acceptable?thx. Ron Parigoris 

 Hi Ron, 

 I have an EIS plus an analogue tacho and analogue manifold pressure. I 
have found that the EIS is one of the best instruments in my panel - it is 
rock-solid reliable. I would have no hesitation in removing the analogue 
tacho since I find that I do not look at it because the EIS is so accurate 
and refreshes very rapidly. (I would like to replace the tacho with a 
Digitrak which I lust for.) I have all the engine variables set with alarms. 

 If you have a constant speed prop, I recommend you have an analogue 
manifold pressure gauge - it permits rapid and accurate power changes. If 
you use the EIS to follow MP, you may have to change to a different page 
which is a bit clunky. 

 One final comment :- The fuel flow/totaliser option on the EIS is a good 
investment. It is very accurate and provides great peace of mind on a long 
trip by giving the calculated endurance. I just keep a healthy margin 
between that number and my GPS ETE (estmated time enroute), there is no 
mental arithmetic. Finally, I set my low fuel alarm at 4 gallons. 

 Cheers, John 

 N262WF, mono XS, 912S, Whirlwind C/S prop 




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