Um, Fred, you missed the obvious. The ideal weight for a slightly above
average (by North American standards) height, medium build, man is 160 lb
and the comparable woman is 134 lb, so unless we have two taller than
average people, there's about 46 extra pounds sitting in the seats. There
isn't enough room in the panel for 46 lb of avionics!! Alternatively, that
extra weight's the equivalent of almost 8 gallons of fuel.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Empty weight/XS,Turbo,Tri-gear,IFR equipped ?
> Men,
> I'm a complete novice at the XS.. my dream is to fly..wife&I cross
country.
> I need a very light XS, TURBO, TRI GEAR, IFR, W/ LONG RANGE TANKS...THE
TWO OF
> US WEIGH 340, 28 GAL FULE= 168 BAGGAGE=70...I'v seen a couple A/P at 900#
empty
> IS THERE A WAY TO DO LIGHTER ON EMPTY WEIGHT ON THIS COMBO? WHAT COMBO OF
> INSTREMENTS WOULD BE LIGHT BUT ADIQUATE FOR ILS APPROCH?? WHAT WEIGHTS DO
YOU
> SEE FOR THIS COMBO?
> THANKS FOR YOUR HELP JR WIS
With the aux tank (which if works OK on the trigear will impinge more into
baggage space), you're going to be on a tight budget weight-wise. IFR
avionics need not add much, but what really hurt are things like (IFR
necessary) dual battery/alternator, controllable pitch prop, interior
upholstery on more than the seats, night lights, and wheel fairings. What
hurts for IFR is if you'd rather not do IFR with only one comm and nav.
Also, too many mods you see here, though many worthwhile, start adding up.
Only lightweight ILS I know of worth actually using down to actual 200-1/2
is the Narco Nav 122D. Or a used Nav 122, but the first Narco repair bill
can cancel the savings. Very light GPS map/comms are the Garmin/AT
GX-series, letting you get away with one VOR/LOC box -- Nav122D can
$optionally$ be its CDI. W/o a 10-lb. ADF or faking it with enroute-only
GPS, a MB rcvr is handy, and further w/o approach-certified GPS to do the
NDB overlay, when the nonfederal VOR craps at my home field, you land
elsewhere. Or ask for vectors to the NDB 10 - it's over a big lake, duck
under and track toward the Convenient Food Mart near the shore, thence hang
a right for short final to 23! IOW, serious IFR means weight or $$.
I'd figure on 850 at least for an IFR 914, but one way out is forget aux
fuel. Just plan for shorter legs and often shoot approaches into the
darndest places and mess with void times or picking up clearances aloft.
Can your wife do IFR copilot chores? :-)
Regards,
Fred F.
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