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Re: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted
From: Brian Davies <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:37:20

David,
Light Aero Spares tel 01409 281578 sell a French equivalent for between 10
and 15.

Brian Davies kit 454
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cripps, David" <david.cripps@spsystems.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted


<david.cripps@spsystems.com>
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> The pins I'm talking about are the ones that go through the top of the
tailplanes, through the torque tube and out the other side. Maybe my
terminology is not correct, but the pins I have (and one of which is broken)
have a ring at the top which pulls on a spring loaded rod than runs up the
centre of the pin, and when either pulled or pushed it allows a couple of
little ball bearings at the pin's tip to retract so that you can then pull
the pin out/push it in. I thought that was a pip pin - I've not heard of a
'permament pin'. Can you tell me more?
>
> By 'upgrading' I mean the process by which some people have changed these
1/4" pins to 5/16" pins and reamed out the holes accordingly - 'oversizing'
you call it.
>
> Also I do understand about the fact that these pins are only intended to
ensure that the tailplanes don't slide off - and that they shouldn't carry
torque as that may dislodge the bush embedded in the tailplanes. Elongating
the holes (circumferentially - not spanwise) in the torque tube helps in
this respect. I understand that torque is only supposed to be transmitted
via the drive pins and plate at the root end of the tailplanes.
>
> I think we're all talking about the same thing - just my terminology may
be incorrect!
>
> Thanks for the comments and for the offers of help from everyone else -
what a great forum this is.
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R.C.Harrison [mailto:ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk]
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted
>
>
<ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>
> Hi! David /Ferg.
> I am intrigued about PIP PIN UPGRADING? The Only upgrading I know of is
the
> 1370lb spar 1/2" pins replacing 3/8" pin originals or the oversizing of
> Torque Tube Drive Pins which are permanent pins   not "Pip Pins".
> The  pip pins holes in the tail plane bush are supposed to be elongated
> radially to ensure they DON'T act as drivers on the inner tail plane bush
> when slop develops between the two tail plane halves.
> Bemused Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted
>
>
> dAVID,
>             I have one, because of upgrading. Jenny comes over this week.
> Let me know.
> Ferg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cripps, David" <david.cripps@spsystems.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted
>
>
> <david.cripps@spsystems.com>
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > The spring mechanism in one of my pip-pins for my Europa Classic
tailplane
> came apart when I was trying to pull the pin out. Although I've now got
the
> pin out it is clearly no use and needs replacing. New ones appear to be
> massively expensive (>50GB pounds each).
> >
> > Does anyone who has drilled out their torque tubes to take the new,
> upgraded, larger diameter pip-pins have an old, smaller diameter one to
> spare?
> >
> > Yours hopefully
> >
> > David
> > GBWJH
> >
> >
> > Visit SP at stand J06/L01 at the JEC Composites Show, Paris, 1st-3rd
April
> 2003
> >
> >
>
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Conditions)
> of SP Systems (the Company) which are available on request from the
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> Any advice given by the Company in connection with the sale of goods is
given
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