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Subject: RE: was RE: Europa-List: G-OWWW first flight .now a debate aboutThrottle/power
From: STOUT GARRY V CSFF2 <garrys@att.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:53:29

I have been flying my Europa CS prop for 4 years.  Throttle equals
power.  When I want to climb I push the throttle forward.  When I want
to descend I pull the throttle lever backward.  Power equals climb, lack
of power equals decent.  I remember the words of my primary flight
instructor some 35 years ago........pitch for airspeed, power for
altitude.

Regards,

Garry V. Stout

Trigear N4220S
E-Mail:  garrys@att.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Burton [mailto:markb@ordern.com]
Subject: Re: was RE: Europa-List: G-OWWW first flight .now a debate
aboutThrottle/power levers.


I hesitate to comment in the face of expert opinion, but...

Irrespective of whether you have a CS prop or not, waggling the
throttle does influence how much power the engine generates so
Richard's statement appears reasonable. i.e. the throttle always acts
as a power lever.

The fact that the RPM doesn't change (much) for different power levels
when using a CS prop is not really relevant.

Cheers,

Mark

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From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: was RE: Europa-List: G-OWWW first flight .now a debate about
Throttle/power levers.
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:40:13 -0000

<ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> 
> Hi! Richard.
> I'm sorry but I disagree with your statement below that "the throttle
is
> always a power lever."
> It is always the lever which regulates the intake of fuel and normally
> associated with RPM. However if a Constant Speed Prop is restraining
the RPM
> to a fixed level then although the lever performs the same fuel
control
> function it is actually now controlling the POWER output of the engine
> against the fixed RPM.
> So Rotax or not you can be inflicting a call for an impossible(and
therefore
> damaging) power demand against the fixed constant RPM course pitched
> propeller unless you have known manifold pressure parameters within
which to
> stay.
> I will be very interested how you present your case and the outcome of
the
> argument you are destined to have.
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard
> Holder
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: G-OWWW first flight.
> 
> 
> > On the Manifold Pressure question, without one you will never know
whether
> > you are running the engine constantly overloaded or not, with the CS
> > prop.your throttle becomes a power lever since the RPM control is
done by
> > the prop.
> 
> Actually the throttle is ALWAYS a power lever, CS or no. What you
mean, I
> think, is that with CS the tacho is NOT a measure of power.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




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