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Re: USA Builders - Sport-Light Aircraft

Subject: Re: USA Builders - Sport-Light Aircraft
From: Ira Rampil <rampil@anesthes.sunysb.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:45:25
Thanks Kevin,

I used to live in San Mateo.  Been to Bishop, really pretty.
In fact, I set one of my trainees up with a job in the local hospital
there. 
Ive got my SEL and am working on my Glider rating. It seems you can even fly
IFR in a motorglider!

Ira


On 3/10/02 8:43 PM, "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net> wrote:

> Chris, I am in Bishop CA. I have not yet ordered glider wings. I hope to try
> em out at Sun&Fun.
> You probably are aware of the fact that if your Europa gets registered as a
> glider you would not need a SEL rating to fly it. Just an endorsement in
> your log book to fly a powered glider because you have a glider rating.
> 
> Ira, it's Chris who lives in MA.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Behalf Of Chris Davis
> Subject: Re:  USA Builders - Sport-Light Aircraft
> 
> Kevin , I am also building a motorglider, just returned from fla. with my
> wings !!!!!!!!!!!! do you have your wing kit and where are you? I am in
> MA.and am glider licenced but no single engine licence.
> I would love to hook up with other glider wing builders along the way.
> Chris Davis A160 MG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
> Subject: Re:  USA Builders - Sport-Light Aircraft
> 
> 
>> Shaun, Do you believe you will be able to register your Europa as a glider
>> with the short wings, before building the long wings?
>> 
>> Getting a glider rating is not difficult. It is an add on to your private
>> and requires a check ride with an examiner but no written test.
>> I am a glider instructor as well as private SEL and hope to offer the
>> necessary instruction and endorsements to fellow Europa pilots when my kit
>> becomes plane. I better get back out there and sand!
>> Kevin A211
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: forum-owner@europaclub.org.uk
>> Behalf Of Shaun Simpkins
>> Subject: Re:  USA Builders - Sport-Light Aircraft
>> 
>> There's a gotcha for registering as a motorglider.  My understanding is
> that
>> although a motorglider
>> doesn't require a medical, it does require a glider rating.  So if you're
>> not a glider pilot now, you'll
>> need to be one before your first flight.  Even if you, like me, are
> building
>> the short wings first.
>> 
>> Shaun
>> A207
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <clevelee@cswebmail.com>
>> Subject: Re:  USA Builders - Sport-Light Aircraft
>> 
>> 
>>> Fred,
>>> That's why I found the glider wings option on the Eruopa so attractive
> in
>> the first place.  While a hassel re-registering the plane as a motor
> glider,
>> it is an option to keep flying into the future should passage of medical
> be
>> a problem.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 09 March 2002, Fred Fillinger wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, all --
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone considered the impact of this proposed rule?  Seems all you
>>>> have to do (for trigear) is submit W&B for 1,232# gross, at which
>>>> weight you should meet the stall speed limits.  Better for 912, where
>>>> you can max at 115 knots with prop pitch, followed by later
>>>> maintenance error in setting pitch. :-)  Even for 912S, there's hope.
>>>> Don't have to flight test max Vh with wheel fairings (oops, left 'em
>>>> at home), and do it on a hot, turbulent day.  For 914, looks like too
>>>> heavy.  Sounds like civil disobedience, but there's gonna be some of
>>>> that in the SLA rule, I predict, and FAA's ability to enforce here
>>>> will slightly exceed that of the ultralights.
>>>> 
>>>> The advantage is a "paper basis" for continued flight if one loses a
>>>> medical on some dinky thing.  You'd have to build light, and be
>>>> "overgross" with any baggage with pax and full fuel.  But trying to
>>>> recertify later at lower weight/performance #'s, should loss of
>>>> medical happen, will raise a red flag.  It seems worth a try on
>>>> initial cert, and considering this may help guide new bldrs in gear
>>>> choice and light-building practices.
>>>> 
>>>> Just 'typing out loud.'  Any thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Fred F.
>>>> 
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