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From: Alexander P. de C. Kaarsberg <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:45:59

......the power curve explanation is a good one.....but one also must 
look at the manifold pressure indicator before noting the differences in 
speed, a rpm setting alone under these circumstances will exagerate the 
difference in speed....

Regards,
Alex


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Speed Kit
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:37:11 -0000
From: "Jeremy Davey"

It is real! Check out 
a PA28 manual - the Warrior I learned in would settle at 110kts (if I 
remember right) or so at 2300rpm when throttling back from full power on 
reaching 100kts or so, or 120kts at 2300rpm if you throttled back from 
full power on reaching that higher speed. I remember clearly my 
instructor demonstrating it to me and my flight-test examiner doing the 
same when I throttled back early on the climb out from a PFL. The reason 
is the shape of the drag curve. The drag is the same at both speeds, and 
equals the thrust from the engine+prop at 2300rpm. To get the higher 
speed you have to get the plane over the higher drag in between those 
speeds by using more power or diving. My instructor/examiner both talked 
about 'getting onto the back of the drag curve'. And yes, I do mean drag 
rises then falls slightly as speed increases! Does anyone know the 
reason for sure? Pitch attitude higher at 110kts than 120kts would be my 
guess.

Regards, Jeremy
Jeremy Davey Europa XS monowheel 537M 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa@post.aviators.net 
Subject: RE: Speed Kit

Hi Martin, I think this has been alluded to before, a few 
months back. See Europa newsgroup exchanges re:'the step'. Some say it 
is an illusion, others that it exists and has been documented ! FWIW, my 
guess is that it's illusiory. I don't believe that ANY aircraft breaks 
the laws of aerodynamics, so if it is a real phenomena, it'll be 
described somewhere in the standard literature. Ask a boffin !! Alan 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa@post.aviators.net 
Subject: Speed Kit

Hi Folks, One thing I noticed when I fly is if I level off at 
- say - 3,500 ft let the speed build, throttle back to say 5,000 rpm I 
get around 115 kt indicated. If I climb to 3,600 ft first then gently 
point the nose down to bring me back down to 3,500 ft and let the 
airspeed gets up to around 125 kt indicated, throttle back to 5,000 rpm 
the airplane settles back to 120 kt indicated (where it stays). Don't 
know if its some weird aerodynamic thing but it seems by pushing it over 
its normal cruise speed first then letting it settle back to its own 
cruise speed, you get a few knots more than if you were to let it make 
its own way up. I haven't taken any scientific measurements just an 
observation of the ASI. Anyone else found this? Any ideas?

Martin Tuck 
N152MT Wichita, Kansas



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