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Subject: Re: Which Version
From: Shaun Simpkins <shauns@hevanet.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:14:06
Peter's remarks have certainly spawned a host of postings to the web.
David's response exemplifies something that has become more common as
the Europa fleet has grown and notably as the XS has come on line-
transition training in type.

I also note with no criticism intended that David now fits Peter's
description of the
successful Monowheel pilot - "huge hours with lots in type", even though
he started
at nothing.  But David did get proper type training, a flew a LOT
afterwards.  It is
a sad fact that most pilots rarely fly more than 100 hrs/year, and this
is just not
enough to keep one's skills up.  The magazines and Europa do now caution
prospective
buyers that the Europa does require more skill to land and take off than
the typical
Cessna

I have to admit that the local folks I've talked to that are flying the
Monowheel and were
able to just "get in and go" had many hours in taildraggers beforehand.

As I build my plane, I am transition training in gliders (the original
monowheel) and will
seek transition training in type as the completion date nears.  But yes,
the trigear was a
very strong consideration, and may be a retrofit later on.

I would also question Peter's contention that the mainwheel position is
wrongly positioned
in the middle of the COG.  It is clearly far ahead of it.
In reading Pazmany's book on Landing Gear Design, Pazmany's states that
the landing gear
should describe an angle of between 8 and 15 degrees from the CG in
landing AoA for best
handling.  This is surely met by the design.  Peter, any comments?

Shaun
A207

----- Original Message -----
  From: David Watts
  Subject: Which Version


  > > John Cliff wrote
   > > Every monowheel pilot I know is frightened of their machine! not
really
  a
   > > good idea for a 'hobby' plane.
  > I never did !  (it was another guy, I'm just the messenger)   :-)
  > John

  I'm very sorry John for the confusion. A lot of messages on this forum
  really wind me up, but I control myself. Unfortunately I couldn't
contain
  myself over this message.

  For anybody interested I have been into 2 very unusual strips over the
last
  two days.

  The first was a microlight strip called Stoke. It is 600 metres long
with a
  fairly good sideways curve along its length. It has a hanger at one
end of
  the runway. A bank along the whole eastern side. A railway line along
the
  whole western side and very tall electricity pylons immediately the
other
  side of the railway, which curves around onto the approach path. Oh,
and
  it's very bumpy.

  The second was relatively very good at Cross in Hand. This is again a
long
  600 metres with the threshold at the end of a long sloping forest. The
first
  part of the runway is uphill and sensibly unusable. The rest of the
strip is
  markedly downhill and also has a significant sideways slope. Again it
is
  very rough and the far end of the runway had a short vertical drop.

  Does operating into these kind of fields (and I have been in to
another 2
  like that in the past month) sound like I am frightened of the
monowheel
  Europa. I will leave you to judge.

  I must add that I do not make it a habit of using these kinds of
strips, it
  is just the way things have panned out recently. I am eqally happy
flying
  into big airfields in the middle of class D airspace, witness the
recent
  trip that I made solo down to Croatia, running a day behind the rest
of the
  pack due to work commitments.

  I started flying the monowheel Europa with just 70 hours total in my
  logbook, but instead of being stupid, I got some training with Martin
  Stoner, and even then worked slowly up the experience ladder (working
hand
  in hand with my daughter Sarah who also owns the aircraft and had
identical
  log book experience at the beginning). We now have 670 hours on the
  aircraft, nearly 500 of which are mine due to the difference in time
  available and we both absolutely love it. Sarah, even with her
comparatively
  fewer hours has taken the aircraft from the UK, down to the south of
France
  and back up the west coast on a week long holiday.

  Whatever it is you fly, monowheel, conventional or tri-gear, for
goodness
  sake get on and enjoy flying it (or building it).

  Dave Watts G-BXDY



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