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Re: Using oil lines for a battery cable.

Subject: Re: Using oil lines for a battery cable.
From: Robert L. Nuckolls III <nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:40:03
  Earlier this week, there was a little bit of discussion
  about combining an oil line with a ground system in
  a canard pusher aircraft.  The line was to bring warm
  oil forward for use as a cabin heat source. The writer
  wondered if the same line could be used as an electrical
  conductor to replace a 2AWG ground wire.

  I could see how it might be done. The potential hazard
  would arise from the single point of contact between
  the liquid carrying tubing and the electrical connection
  to that tubing. If that joint, and the one adjacent to
  it were of impecable integrity, then no electrical arcing
  and subsequent damage to the liquid carrying component
  could occur due to poor conduction, overheating and
  arcing.

  I could see a copper strap looped around the tubing at
  some appropriate location, soldered to the tubing and
  formed into a tab where a wire could be bolted on
  to carry electrons off to a destination separate from
  the oil.

  I suggested that the technique might save 2.5 pounds
  in the total weight of the airplane and further that
  the builder consider the trade off between the ease 
  and confidence of a tube and wire installation versus
  taking on the task of making sure the dual use
  installation was technically sound.

  I expected to get a flood of mail about this . . .
  I have received a few responses that run in this
  general flavor:

>I've been mechanicing for a while and the general formula is to keep the
>electrical and fluid lines seperate. It introduces to many oppurtunities for
>sparking which would creat hot spots that would put holes in the tubing.

  Understood. That philosophy operates under the assumption that
  sparking and arcing WILL occur. If one designs a system wherein
  arcing CANNOT occur, then the system is intrinsically safe.

  For example, certain potential electrical energy levels are
  ALLOWED inside a fuel tank because we understand the physics
  that supports combustion and/or explosions. Saturated vapors
  cannot combust due to lack of oxygen, ignition cannot happen
  below certain energy densities within an explosive atmosphere,
  etc. Automobiles have depended on these simple truths for
  over 60 years and we've yet to see the ass-ends of cars
  being blown off by their fuel gages.

  Bureaucratic posturing and rewriting of the laws of physics
  to support TWA 800 soothsayers not withstanding, there are
  ways to bring potentially hazardous substances into close
  proximity with potentially antagonistic phenomenon with comfort.
  It's like defining the weight and ballance envelope for an
  airplane, stay inside and your future is bright, venture outside
  and risks multiply rapidly.

  Rules of thumb, general formulas and other sage advice don't
  have to consider anything except the stature of the authors,
  their power to promote them, and our willingness to accept them.

  The amateur built airplane arena is one of the few places 
  left were politicians and bureaucrats have yet to take a 
  strangle-hold on philosophy and technology. In this venue, 
  no idea is unworthy of consideration under the light and 
  magnifying glass of physics.

  Personally, I'd have no problem fabricating such a system
  and flying it with confidence. An amateur builder may want
  to solicit the aid of one experienced in the mechanical
  skills of putting the parts together. He might even consider
  backing off the oil line and using the vacuum line (if
  he's unfortunate enough to need one) to do the dual task.

  I took on this issue to illustrate the precious value of
  the freedom we have to do good science on our airplanes.
  I'm sure I came off a bit wild-eyed a few days ago when
  I responded to someone's query about an FAA inspector's
  request to do a detailed weight and balance document for
  an amateur built airplane. It's not that doing such a
  document is a BAD idea, but it's not necessary from a
  regulatory perspective. Nor does it have much value in
  the future operation of the airplane . . . perhaps an 
  exercise with EDUCATIONAL value but certainly no more.

  The requestor may have been genuinely interested in 
  advancing the builder's understanding of airplanes. No
  matter what HIS/HER motivation, should some future up-n-
  coming bureaucrat find reference to or even a copy of such
  a document in an FAA file, there's an opportunity for
  an educational exercise to take root and grow up as
  a requirement.

  Ben Franklin, at the signing of the Declaration of
  Independence allowed as how, "We should all hang 
  together or most certainly we shall all hang
  separately." The future of our craft and right to
  practice it is delicately balanced on our ability
  to "hang together."   Fly comfortably my friends 
  but be watchful for the noses of camels circling 
  our collective tent . . .


       Bob . . .



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