>Has anyone put a rear seat into a Europa?
Yes, the question has been aired before. Here are all the posts I can
find that relate to it:
>21:43:49
>26-9-1996
>rowil@gn.apc.org (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
>baby seat?
>
>A long time ago Martin Hynes <hynesm@indigo.ie> asked me (in private e-mail):
>
> >Have you heard of any one being allowed fit a child seat or baby seat to a
> >Europa? With another on the way, my long suffering partner may draw
> >the line at leaving he/her at home.
>
>I don't think either of us got around to asking the question in this forum.
>I guess it wouldn't weigh more than a couple of folding bicycles :-), so
>there shouldn't be a weight issue, but there probably are restraint &
>positioning issues. I don't think anyone in the UK has approached PFA
>engineering on the topic. Has anyone in the USA done anything like this, I
>wonder? It's just of academic interest to me as we have no offspring to
>transport, but I imagine there are other folk in Martin's position.
>
>
>08:55:37
>28-9-1996
>trevor.jackson@ndirect.co.uk
>Re: baby seat?
>
>At Cranfield 95 I asked Francis Donaldson: Now that the PFA covers
>aircraft wth more than two seats, can we fit a child seat if we keep
>within the Europa's weight and balance requirements. Answer: I don't
>see why not, do a design with calculations to support it and I'll
>look at it.
>If our baby's still less than 80 pounds when I finish the 2-seater I
>intend to do this.
>
>Trevor Jackson
>
>
>00:21:36
>19-4-1999
>"Michael Cheshire" <michael.cheshire@gte.net>
>Child Seat Question
>I am interested in building a Europa but , as I have a 1 year old child,
>I am reluctant to begin without some confirmation that it is possible
>and safe to build a child seat in the baggage area. Andy Draper,
>technical manager at Europa, was unable to provide me with any
>information but recommended that I post a note here to check with the
>builders.
>
> So...I would greatly appreciate it if anyone that has built or is
>building a child seat for their Europa would contact me.
>
> About myself, I am a long-time aviation enthusiast who has been
>slowly working toward my private pilot's license. I should finish this
>summer. I hope, fervently, to begin building an aircraft in the next
>year and the Europa is at the top of my list. Again, any info is
>greatly appreciated.
>
>11:03:56
>19-4-1999
>Carl <Carl@photos.prestel.co.uk>
>Child Seats In Europas
>
>Michael Cheshire wrote:
> >
> > I am interested in building a Europa but , as I have a 1 year old
> > child, I am reluctant to begin without some confirmation that it is
> > possible and safe to build a child seat in the baggage area.
>
>There is absolutely no reason why it should not be technically possible
>to fit a child seat in the Europa baggage area (presumably we are
>talking XS version as opposed to MK 1), however you will almost
>certainly have to do a very careful assesment of the likely maximum all
>up weight your aircraft.
>
>Assuming you are an average builder, it is going to take you at least
>two years to complete your aircraft by which time "junior" will be three
>and weigh that much more (assuming that only one offspring is planned
>!). The Europa is many things but unfortunately not a family tourer.
>
>Of course if you and your co-pilot are relatively light people, then
>carrying a third passenger might be possible, though I am not sure what
>the legal (or insurance) position might be. Fot the answer to this
>question you would need to speak to Francis Donaldson (the great high
>priest at ther PFA). If Francis says it is OK then you might be in with
>a chance.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Carl Pattinson
>
>G-LABS
>
>
>21:45:47
>25-4-1999
>breitenbach.dentaltechnik@t-online.de (Thomas Breitenbach)
>Re: Child Seat Question
>ask Mr. Jens Gralfs at Dasa/Hamburg (Sorry, but I don't have the email
>adress). He is a user of this newsgroup and has integrated a childseat in
>his Europa.
>
>
>21:45:48
>25-4-1999
>ferdinand verveckken <ferdinand.verveckken@ping.be>
>RE: Child Seat Question
>
>I know of one Europa flying with a childs' seat.
>Built in Germany by Jens and Julia Gralfs.
>I believe it's registered as D-EJJG.
>However they finished the airplane before starting the family project.
>They wrote it added considerably to the time needed and to the
>complexity of the plane.
>
>Nand, Europa 226
Hope this helps.
regards
Rowland
... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...
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