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Re: Master Switch

Subject: Re: Master Switch
From: Robert L. Nuckolls III <nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:37:51
>Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:31:33
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
>Subject: Re: Master Switch
>
>>Bob,
>>
>>First off I visited your web site, it's great.  I'll kindly explain why 
>>I, others and many manufactures feel an avionics master switch is useful.
>
>     . . . there's a difference between "useful" and "necessary" . . .
> 
>> First off, it's nice to be able to turn on everything with just one 
>>switch but that does have it's draw backs as you know.
>
>    . . . not the least of which is single point of failure for every
>    electronic item. Further, contemporary bus architectures don't
>    accomodate essential goodies with a second, totally isolated
>    power path . . a few folk have installed a second switch across
>    the first path, "just in case."
>
>> . . . .   I'm not sure just 
>>how much avionics you've installed but my guess is very little.
>
>    True. I've not been personally involved in installation of
>    off-the-shelf products in many airplanes . . . perhaps a large
>    gap in my education or I would have discovered earlier how
>    bad some of these products are, to wit:
>
>>                                                   . . . .  . .   If 
>>you've ever installed a GEM, IIMorrow 360, Shadin air data computer or 
>>BFG 900 in a 4 cyl Lycoming powered aircraft and started it with the 
>>avionics on you will scramble the software and at least one of the above 
>>items.  Often you can reset the instrument by just shutting the avionics 
>>master switch off and then back on.
>
>    Why do you purchase and install this kind of stuff in your airplane?
>    As I mentioned earlier, I've been designing electronics systems for
>    aircraft for a long time (25+ years). The gizmos ranged from simple
>    low voltage warning systems to a servoed trim speed controller
>    that's currenty flying on the majority of the Lear fleet. I'm a
>    consultant to several manufacturers of modern, microprocessor
>    based components for aircraft and other vehicular applications
>    (you can't escape them any more, microprocessors are everywhere).
>    This type of behavior is unacceptable to my customers and unacceptable
>    to me as a designer.  If you don't box these things up and send
>    them back, you've told your supplier that his design is "acceptable".
>    If the computer on which I write this barfed like that more than
>    a few times, it would be back in the box . . . or at least worked
>    on to fix the problem. My microprocessors don't go dumb with every
>    hicup on the bus, why should I accept it that anyone else's does?
>
>> . . . . .   If the battery is weak, then the 
>>problem is worse.  I haven't seen avionics software scramble with the 
>>master switch left on as much with the big bore continentals.  This is 
>>probably because they are 6 cyls and low compression.  Put and "O" scope 
>>on the avionics buss and start a Lycoming, you will see spikes not just 
>>low voltage.  
>
>   How "big" and for how long?
>
>>I don't think radios were designed to work during most piston aircraft 
>>starting, this is not ordinarly.  I sent Mike Busch a couple of notes 
>>from King and Collins stating that an avionics master was desired. . .
>
>   I'd like copies of those letters . .  or the name of the person
>   at the bottom.
>
>>DO-160 is not revelent to all avionics such as GEMS and sorts.
>
>   DO-160 is relevant to any piece of electrical equipment the manufacturer
>   chooses to apply it to. It's not a specification but a test method.
>   If you have any gizmo capable of being an antagonist or victim to
>   other equipment, DO-160 outlines test methods for various conditions 
>   found aboard an airplane. It's applicable to ANYTHING you want 
>   investigate for suitability of use on aircraft.
>
>> . . . . .   I don't 
>>know of any current aircraft that doesn't have an avionics master from 
>>the factory, even the new Cessna models.  I just got out of a Citation 5 
>>and the check list had "Avionics Master Off" BEFORE the start button was 
>>pushed.
>
>   I don't doubt it. I was working at Cessna when we put the first ones
>   in the airplane and based on what we knew then, the fragility of the
>   radios, the lack of design standards, and the general attituded that
>   "more gizmos is better" I thought it was a good idea then too. The 
>   thing that mystifies me is why, in 30 years since, we've not
>   learned as designers to do any better and why as consumers, we
>   put up with what ever the manufacturer wants to sell us.
>
>   After designing to meet performance specifications, the #2 design
>   item on my list is stand up to EVERYTHING the airplane can throw
>   at me. I can also tell you that the task is trivial compared to
>   other design requirements.  I just finished qualifying a new
>   autopilot for a military program.  This piece of hardware would
>   survive quite nicely in any single engine airplane too . . . the
>   autopilot costs about $9,000 to build. The cost of components to
>   insure survival from bus induced hazards is under $10.
>
>>Is an avionics master needed???  In my opinion it is, nor will I do an 
>>installation without one but you definately can have your own opinion.  
>>That's called America:)
>
>   But here's the ace-kicker.  The avionics master switch is a
>   check-list item.  I cannot count how many times I've stepped into
>   a rental airplane and found the avionics master switch still on. If
>   a missed or ignored check-list item truly puts some very expensive
>   part of the airplane at risk then I'll suggest there's a SERIOUS 
>   design problem here, would you disagree?  Don't pilots have enough
>   responsabilites as pilots without burdening them with guardianship
>   of fragile or balky electronics?  In virtually EVERY segment of
>   consumer electronics from Matel Toys to the fire-breathing, byte
>   thrashers on my desk, the value and capability of electronics-for-
>   the-people gets better almost daily. Yet we as pilots and owners
>   of airplanes take it in the shorts because there's some aura about
>   "aircraft quality" or "certified" hardware that has put our best
>   senses as consumers to sleep.
>
>   You say you have documentation from manufacturers wherein they 
>   recommend an avionics master switches. You also allude to special 
>   action on the part of the pilot to coax pieces of equipment into
>   normal operation. Wouldn't it be better to encourage, nay INSIST
>   that manufacturer to live up to a trivial responsability? A 1960's 
>   attidude of avionics consumerism puts little pressure on them to
>   do better. I work with hundreds of individuals who are assembling their
own
>   airplanes. We design and fabricate systems that are failure tolerant
>   and free of trash that exceeds the capability of DO-160 qualified
>   stuff to SURVIVE.  Since we're building the best single engine airplanes
>   that ever were, I counsel my friends to not tolerate any lapse in
>   supplier responsabilities to provide equipment suited to the task.
>   This includes both matters of survivability and operability.
>
>   Your constituency is pretty much stuck with "what you see is
>   what you get" from the aircraft manufacturing community. Customer
>   relations of these firms may claim to have customer's best
>   interests in mind but I'll suggest they demonstrate otherwise.
>   When the kind of products you describe are allowed to continue
>   to flow into new applications, it's a glaring example of breakdown
>   in supplier consumer relations and manufacturers responsabilities
>   to REDUCE pilot workload not increase it.
>
>   I really like to get some names of contacts you can supply for
>   any firm that suggests that an avionics master switch is useful.
>
>

      Bob . . .
      AeroElectric Connection

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