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Re: Europa-List: Congrats to Jeff,Cooling feedback for Bud

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Congrats to Jeff,Cooling feedback for Bud
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:53:19
Paul,
I'll snap some photo's of what we've done and drag down some numbers.
For cooling air I am talking about the actual air intakes not the 
oil/glycol cooler openings.  That is a different set of calcs but 
similar.  The Rotax is very much air cooled.  You hit the nail on the 
head that the turbo/muffler is one heck of a heat generator.  Therefore 
when full turbo is selected the scant 14 inches of air to the front of 
the cylinders is not directed where needed and because of exit design 
unable to exit freely by draft and/or by force.

The 914 NACA inlet is for induction only, except for what leaks high 
pressure air into the lower cowl from the hole made for the filter.  The 
NACA disturbs me because it leaks high pressure air into the engine 
compartment directly below the engine, blocking what air comes in from 
the front.  

Remember the hole we all made around the front of the cowl.  Without 
that closed off any pressure coming in the front leaks away.  

The radiator we have is actually large enough to do the job, as is the 
oil cooler.  Our problem is the duct shape and exit.  At low speed the 
back of our coolers doesn't form enough of a draw to compensate for the 
low air speed coming in.  We could probably use a cowl flap.

It is a tangled web we weave.  And an expensive one.

Enough for now.  My turbo oil seal went and now it sucks the oil out of 
the engine.  Good news is the intake and carbs are really well 
lubricated now.

Talk to you soon.

Bud
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul McAllister<mailto:paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Congrats to Jeff,Cooling feedback for Bud


  Hi Bud,

  I am deep in the middle of doing cooling modifications on my Europa.  
I am finding that it has taken me much longer than expected, I think I 
started in March and I am still at it.

  Rather than get into the details of what I have been doing, I'll leave 
that for when we get together at Rough River.

  I do have a couple of questions and a request.  In your note you state 
that the air inlet on the XS is 14 square inches.  I come up with the 
following:

  'Dog box'                                            4 x 7.125     = 
28.5 Sq"s
  'Round Inlets'                                      3" (2 off)      
= 14
  "914 NACA Engine air inlet'                  1.25 x 4      = 5

  If I have done my maths correctly the this is a total of 47.5 square 
inches.  Am I missing something ?

  When I compare this to something like a 160hp RV6 then it doesn't seem 
right to me.

  Would you be prepared to bring some photographs to show what you do on 
your exits?

  I have a couple of theories on what is happening on my 914.  On the 
ground I think that the issue is more about thermal gain from the 
exhaust & turbo, rather than anything to do with the oil/water radiator 
configurations.  I decided this from talking to Erich.  He told me that 
he can taxi around for as long as he wants without over heating when the 
top cowl is off.  As soon he puts the top on, it over heats in 15 
minutes.   He lives in Nevada.

  In the climb I think the 'Dog box' has stalled air in it due to the 
angle of attack and I get over heating.  The internal shape is a 
miserable.  It has all kinds of excuse for an expansion duct.  It has 
all kinds of bends and sharp shapes in it.

  In straight and level, I get over cooling because the radiator inlet 
is too big.

  I'll bring photographs of what I have been doing to Rough River,  its 
very radical.

  Cheers,  Paul  


  On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Bud Yerly 
<budyerly@msn.com<mailto:budyerly@msn.com>> wrote:

    Jeff,
    Glad to hear the cooling issues are relieved.  Well done and thanks 
for passing it on.

    For consumption by others and for feedback, I'd like to hear other 
fliers comments also.

    From my shop experience:
    Evans replaced by  60-40 or 50-50 is a 10 degree drop minimum.  
(Sorry Mr. Evans)

    I Jeff's case, by moving the duct two things probably happened:

    For the tri-gear, (those with the wide open area around the nose 
gear trunion and with the firewall moved back behind the nose gear to 
the added bulkhead), moving the duct down, doesn't cause as much of a 
difference.  But the bungees/springs/hoses etc. in the back portion of 
the nose wheel well can restrict flow, and moving the duct down will 
help as it opens the two triangles on either side of the duct adding 
significant air exit for the heat.  It also moves the hot accelerated 
air of the radiators lower in the duct.  This heated air streaming out 
can cause a potential suction which may help pull air out of the cowl.  
(Same affect as using the exhaust venturi.)  

    I once did this with a cowl flap which lowered a reshaped upper 
metal duct ramp and and the cowl ramp bottom together and went from 12 
minutes to overheat on the ground to 30 minutes to 240 F.  It was 
capable of max continuous climb with the flap open.  I now just reshape 
the fixed ramp dimensions for simplicity.

    Finally, I have found that moving the air intakes up to near the 
seam and putting a plenum over the engine or perhaps adding a duct like 
Jeff did, forces air over the cylinders. This helps on climb out in 
super hot conditions, but not much affect in cruise. 

    Tips for those who prefer a stock install:
    Sealing the front and sides of the metal duct tight to the 
fiberglass cowl opening is really important.  A leak in this area can 
cause a high pressure bubble of air in the cowl under the cylinders and 
literally trap heat under the engine and reduce the effectiveness of the 
inlet air intakes.  It also reduces the pressure differential across the 
radiator/oil cooler which is essential to the heat transfer for cooling. 


    The hole for the nose gear leg adds turbulence and pressure to the 
back side of the radiator exit.  Consider a piece of silicone cowl seal 
slit to make cowl installation easy and close this hole up. 

    Open up the inlets fully.  Don't leave a lip as it just restricts 
the flow into the cowl.

    Mostly, you can lower temps 20 degrees just doing the following:

    Begin by closing off the area between the sides of the oil cooler 
and duct.  

    Always lower the oil cooler as far as you can if you have a 912S or 
914 (2-2.5 inches is possible but change the elbow out for a straight 
fitting).  

    I just found this leak.  The area between the oil cooler and 
radiator is nearly a 1/2 inch and you'd be surprised how much potential 
cooling air goes under the radiator, up and over the oil cooler then out 
through the space above the oil cooler.  This high pressure air degrades 
the radiator effectiveness as the air passes up the back of the radiator 
and out.  Assembling the oil cooler as close to the radiator as 
possible, or by adding sheet metal/sealing material to reduce this exit 
air gap is a help.  (Don't let any seal rub the cooler though.)  

    Finally, the seal under the oil cooler must be tight between the oil 
cooler and the fiberglass ramp and continue up the sides of the oil 
cooler.

    From NACA documentation, I found it interesting that 70% of the air 
hitting against a radiator will build pressure and force itself out 
around the radiator in either free air or in a loose duct rather than go 
through the core.  So keep it tight.

    Also somewhere I found the statement that in a tightly cowled inline 
engine, for efficient cooling drag ratios, the ratio of air outlet to 
inlet should be as close to 1-1 when in cruise as possible, and 4 to one 
with the cowl flaps open, in climb.  I can't find that reference right 
now.  However, in the Europa, with the cowl inlet air hole area of 14 or 
so square inches, we need a minimum of 56 inches of exit air, just for 
the cowl air.  But in a mono wheel, ours is two triangles either side of 
the duct and fiberglass ramp of about 15 to 20 inches, and if you are 
lucky, 13 square inches between the firewall and upper metal duct for a 
total of 33 inches of cowl exit air max.  As you can see, this makes the 
air exit of the cowl nearly 1 or 2 to 1.  This is OK for cruise, but a 
disaster for cooling in high power climbs at low speed, especially if 
turbo equipped.  This 4-1 ratio works in my experience.  To cool well in 
summer I try to get 100 square inches of exit air (Tri-gear) out of the 
cowl (Mono with fixed duct 60 square inches, cowl flap added 90).  That 
is just for the cowl air, and does not include the duct exit for the 
radiator. That is a lot of glass and metal work, and seems to be worth 
it.

    I would like the time to reshape my duct in my demonstrator to see 
the affect of each of the above.  My demonstrator just passed 
airworthiness, and will fly soon, (N12AY, Classic, tri-gear, 914, fixed 
pitch for data reasons (LSA experimenting) then Airmaster).  I am 
obligated to do a stock installation with just sealing the duct as above 
and taking data.  It's not rocket science, it just takes time.

    Feedback?

    Again,  Good Job Jeff!
    See you at Rough River.

    Bud Yerly
    Custom Flight Creations
    Europa Dealer


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