Craig,
All my epoxy is freshly made. Huntsman will not make a shipment unless
it is all fresh. From the manufacturer supplied product data sheets,
Araldite 420 is three years using the unopened containers supplied.
Epibond, which is in metal cans, has only been tested to one year for
storage and that is what the data sheet says from Huntsman. Maybe your
containers are different down under. Yes the metal cans lasts longer
just like the Araldite, but I have to go by the product data sheet
supplied. It is the container of the hardener that makes the difference
---From what I see. Once opened, it is hard to get a good seal on the
cans. I transfer my hardener to a small neck glass bottle with a tight
metal cap and have no problems. It doesn't even get a scum layer. The
resin is never a problem.
I am working with Europa about a substitute of Hysol 9309.3NA. Don't
look for a huge price difference though.
Bud
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin<mailto:craigb@onthenet.com.au>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
I dont know about your expiry times Bud, Are you sure they are sending
you new batches.
Like you I am forced to buy the six quart cases and the last one I
got,
new from the australian distributor in september 07 and it is quoting
an expiry of june 2010
price was much the same $1280 a case of 6
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ALAN YERLY
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 4:14 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
Roger, and other Europa Builders in need of Redux also known as
Araldite 420 or Epibond 420 A/B.
I order Redux in cases direct through my long time distributor TAPE.
As there is no other acceptable substitute for Redux, for the Europa
and as a result I am still buying it in bulk and shipping it. I have
looked for substitutes, and many epoxies are as strong, but none as
ductile or willing to be used in aircraft.
I have been informed by my US distributor of Epibond 420 A/B (Redux)
that the manufacturer, Huntsman Products in California, has restructured
their pricing and packaging. I have been in contact with my
distributor and Huntsman over the last four months trying to resolve the
issue. Gladly, Huntsman has at least changed their policy and have
agreed to distribute Epibond 420 in 6 quart cases again. Unfortunately,
Huntsman has nearly doubled the price per case with no significant bulk
discounts available for multiple cases. I've researched importing
fresh Redux from overseas and it is slightly more costly due to the weak
dollar and high shipping/hazardous fees.
If I order soon, and I can still combine with other distributors I
can get 6 quarts for about $280 a quart plus shipping to you (typically
$20). Yes, I know that is $120 more than last year. Airbus is the
primary user so if anyone knows someone at Airbus that can steal you
some and smuggle it into the states, we are stuck with some pretty ugly
prices.
Delivery is 30-45 days to me so it will all be a fresh batch. Shelf
life is a year opened or unopened but usually good for at least two if
unopened.
I have tentative orders for 2-3 quarts so far. I need three others.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
Europa Distributor
Cell 813-244-8354
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Lowe<mailto:rlowe@speedway.ca>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
<rlowe@speedway.ca<mailto:rlowe@speedway.ca>>
Everyone,
Has anyone been able to source Araldite 420 and Araldite 2102
(rapid epoxy) in the US or Canada? If you have, can you forward me their
contact information.
The stuff from my partially completed kit that I have purchased
has expired. The stuff I believe is classified as hazardous material for
shipping and I'm in Canada so I'll need to find out if the vendor can
ship it here too.
OR
Is there an "approved" alternative that can be used that is
readily available in US or Canada?
Thanks,
Roger Lowe
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