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Re: Europa-List: TP6 Bonding

Subject: Re: Europa-List: TP6 Bonding
From: Jim Naylor <jimnaylor.44@virgin.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:18:35
Roger,

I think you will find that the apparent wear on your TP12 is in fact 
where it was ground by the manufacturers to true up the original tube. I 
have seen a new, complete assembly that has never been fitted with 
apparent wear marks, but on closer examination it cam be seen to be a 
ridge left after grinding. The TP12's on my own a/c were never ground 
very well, with the result when I grasp the torque tube and rock it, I 
have a slight movement up and down, but nothing in the horizontal plane.

Jim
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ROGER MILLS 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:15 AM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: TP6 Bonding


  Like Bryan and Bob Harrison, I too found an excellent bond between rib 
and TP6 and agree with Bryan's point about feedback - here's some more 
which might help others:


  1. I agree with the guidance in mod 73 not to use power tools - I used 
hand tools and was glad I did, the foam is easily damaged.

  2. Having had (I thought) almost 3/8" play at the tailplane trailing 
edge, I intended to do mod 62 at the same time as mod 73. Having 
extracted the torque tube from the fuselage, I find that the pins are 
reasonably tight and there is significantly less TP12 to TP4 play than 
first thought. Investigation shows that there is some wear between  the 
TP11s and TP12s which contributes to the play observed on the aircraft. 
After 440 hours, TP11 appears to be hardly worn but there is a visible 
track worn into TP12 and some eccentricity (a bit like its owner?). I 
have seen the same wear pattern on other online photographs of TP12s - 
so I'm not alone! Since Mod 62 might not lead to a significant 
improvement, I'm tending towards not doing it until there is more wear - 
to avoid risking ending up with the a similar degree of play and nowhere 
else to go (apart from Bob's clamp mod maybe). Presumably TP11 to TP12 
wear is not as critical as TP12 to TP4 - assuming good mass balance? 
Which leads to the next point:

  3. While the tailplanes and torque tube were out of the aircraft I 
decided to do a check of the mass balance and was surprised to find the 
assembly 78g too heavy at the weight end. I genuinely thought I had 
achieved a good re-balance in situ after mod 70 but the friction in the 
control system was enough to mask the imbalance. How many more Europas 
are like this and might it have contributed to the accident? 
  Since correct mass balance is so critical and removal of the torque 
tube (albeit a pain) takes less than a day's work, it might be worth 
doing this at the same time as mod 73 - giving the advantage of peace of 
mind and also being able to use your own torque tube for a better layup 
than wrapping tape around plastic pipe as some have suggested?

  Hope this helps!

  Roger Mills


  Roger Mills 
  07921140616



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