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1. Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: John Wighton <john@wighton.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 23:54:41
Andy Draper or Ivan should be able to recall the exact FT schedule, but l believe that the FT test pilot did up to 12 rotations in all configurations. There was also a comprehensive AGATE led trial i
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00090.html (9,226 bytes)

2. Re: Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 06:51:20
Thx John, I'm not looking to do fully developed spins intentionally, but would like to be prepared for such if it becomes the result of a full sideslip stall with flaps. Fwiw, the Katana for example
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00091.html (10,044 bytes)

3. Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: JDA <johndavidamos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 08:08:01
According to the "Europa News No 3, March 1993" (Europa Aircraft Tech Tips No3 --From the Europa Club Website): Norrie Groves, Chief Test Pilot Slingsby Aviation, carried out an independent test flig
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00092.html (9,951 bytes)

4. Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: Peter pender <ppen@live.com.au>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 15:37:28
Hi Pete, Will have a go at crossed control stalls one day and report back, but as an aside I was quite surprised at the difference in accelerated stalls gear up and down(mono). In mine anyway if othe
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00093.html (9,461 bytes)

5. Re: Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 19:45:53
Hi Peter, Many thx for the info! At approx what speed and G did it break with mono flaps down? In a level pull-up, or bank? Sounds like a challenge to not overspeed the flaps. That is definitely some
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00094.html (10,727 bytes)

6. Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: Peter pender <ppen@live.com.au>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 17:40:51
Hi Pete, I just put gear down, roll 60 degrees, centre stick and pull until it stalls. G force is proportional to speed. I have the Europa stall warner which in my opinion is actually AOA and was tes
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00095.html (9,669 bytes)

7. Re: Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:15:14
On my biennial renewal flight I was deliberately stalled in a mono gear up steep turn (possibly 60 degrees). The plane went very abruptly into a nose down rapidly rotating spin. No problem correcting
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00096.html (10,685 bytes)

8. Re: Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: fklein@orcasonline.com <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 09:02:20
gear up steep turn (possibly 60 degrees). The plane went very abruptly into a nose down rapidly rotating spin. No problem correcting with standard recovery. A friend did something similar in his tri
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00097.html (10,258 bytes)

9. Re: Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 14:35:37
Agreed! Training, proficiency, and altitude are all prerequisites imho. That said, the Europa design has great recovery attributes, so testing =98should=99 be benign. I have never yet heard of a pire
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00098.html (11,427 bytes)

10. Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: rparigoris <rparigor@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:01:31
Hi Group When stalling Europa pulling some positive Gs, I believe the net effect of wing flexing upward at tips and design/geometry of aileron control has ailerons droop (less washout when pulling Gs
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00100.html (10,232 bytes)

11. RE: Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 01:03:22
Ron, I have never noticed droopy ailerons. A laminar flow airfoil needs no reflexed up or down for reduced drag. The Europa is not a Cessna or Piper flat bottom airfoil. Let me be clear, there are ai
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00101.html (12,176 bytes)

12. Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: budyerly@msn.com <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 18:14:46
David, I am perplexed. It is true that most of the used "deal of the century" aircraft that came through my shop for evaluation or repair took on an average of 350 man hours to bring them up to Annex
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00102.html (12,245 bytes)

13. Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: rparigoris <rparigor@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 07:51:40
Hi Bud Thank you for great information on Stalls and Spins! I paid careful attention to making sure the pivot for aileron was precisely aligned on fuse and wings. No slop. No change in free play. Tha
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00103.html (10,451 bytes)

14. RE: Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 19:49:36
Ron, No offense but picking the wing tip up verses a distributed wing load achieves different bending loads on the wing. I reject your wingtip test as definitive. The outboard wing is nearly 40 squar
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00104.html (13,154 bytes)

15. Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: dmac7 <dmac7@outlook.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:45:12
David Joyce thank you for sharing your experience much appreciated. Though it doesn't really shock me. Maybe a little yaw in the stall? Accelerated stalls come with more drama than unaccelerated stal
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00110.html (9,366 bytes)

16. Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: budyerly@msn.com <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:17:34
Guys, I found typos and added drawings on my Europa Stall Spin Paper. See pdf attached. Best Regards Bud Yerly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=505820#505820 A
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00111.html (9,333 bytes)

17. Re: Europa-List: Re: Stalls & spins - any test pilot pireps out there? (score: 1)
Author: fklein@orcasonline.com <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 12:52:21
Budthanks, with profound appreciationFred
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2022-01/msg00112.html (9,111 bytes)


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