Fred,
While I concur that in order to accommodate the 1 light pilot, full fuel, heavy
bag-bay loading (which was my airplanes condition), a forward CG is necessary,
I caution that stick back on the ground and landing tailwheel first is the thing
which will keep you out of trouble.
Also, remember the Europas ailerons are very powerful and you must never start
a takeoff with full aileron into the crosswind. In this condition, right at
liftoff,
the upwind wing will stall and the airplane will snap 30deg.
It is hard to unlearn the hard-won taildragger skills, but trust the outriggers
and use a finger-width of aileron.
Keep the tailwheel on the ground.
Creighton Smith. A009
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> 1. 11:01 AM - Mono ground handling (Fred Klein)
> 2. 01:05 PM - Re: Mono ground handling (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
> 3. 01:46 PM - Re: Mono ground handling (Fred Klein)
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> From: Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Mono ground handling
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> Mono Gents,
>
> Im looking for recommendations regarding location of C of G and its affect on
ground
> handling, particularly during landing roll out on a hard surface runway
> in the hands of an experienced taildragger pilot, soon to become a newbie
> mono-driver.
>
> Im fully aware of the content of Section 6 - Weight and Balance, of the Owners
> manualincluding, of course, the recommendation for the restricted C of G
> envelope
> for first flight.
>
> My principal question is: Within that restricted envelope, what has been
> learned
> about whether the optimum C of G location would favor the forward limit?or the
> aft limit?
>
> Comments most appreciated,
>
> Fred
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> From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono ground handling
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> Fred, For me the important thing is that your c of g should allow any
> realistic loading without putting the c of g out of limits, that is with
> one v light pilot and full fuel and luggage and also heavy pilots and
> little fuel and luggage. That requires a fairly forward c of g, which
> for me worked out at 58.83". I believe but have no proof that a forward
> c of g will also help ground stability by minimising the tendency for
> the tail to keep swinging outwards once a turn is started. I achieved my
> 'ideal' c of g by adding 3 lbs of lead bolted in front of the stern
> post.
>
> Best of luck, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
>> On 2019-06-08 19:00, Fred Klein wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mono Gents,
>>
>> I'm looking for recommendations regarding location of C of G and its affect
on
> ground handling, particularly during landing roll out on a hard surface runway
> in the hands of an experienced taildragger pilot, soon to become a newbie
> mono-driver.
>>
>> I'm fully aware of the content of Section 6 - Weight and Balance, of the
>> Owner's
> manual...including, of course, the recommendation for the restricted C of
> G envelope for first flight.
>>
>> My principal question is: Within that restricted envelope, what has been
>> learned
> about whether the optimum C of G location would favor the forward
> limit...?...or
> the aft limit...?...
>>
>> Comments most appreciated,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>
>
> Links:
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> [1] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
> [2] http://forums.matronics.com
> [3] http://wiki.matronics.com
> [4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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> ________________________________ Message 3
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> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono ground handling
> From: Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com>
>
> Great feedback David...thanks mucho!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 8, 2019, at 1:04 PM, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
>>
>> Fred, For me the important thing is that your c of g should allow any real
> istic loading without putting the c of g out of limits, that is with one v l
> ight pilot and full fuel and luggage and also heavy pilots and little fuel a
> nd luggage. That requires a fairly forward c of g, which for me worked out a
> t 58.83=9D. I believe but have no proof that a forward c of g will als
> o help ground stability by minimising the tendency for the tail to keep swin
> ging outwards once a turn is started. I achieved my =98ideal=99 c
> of g by adding 3 lbs of lead bolted in front of the stern post.
>>
>> Best of luck, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2019-06-08 19:00, Fred Klein wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Mono Gents,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for recommendations regarding location of C of G and its affe
> ct on ground handling, particularly during landing roll out on a hard surfac
> e runway in the hands of an experienced taildragger pilot, soon to become a n
> ewbie mono-driver.
>>>
>>> I'm fully aware of the content of Section 6 - Weight and Balance, of the O
> wner's manual...including, of course, the recommendation for the restricted C
> of G envelope for first flight.
>>>
>>> My principal question is: Within that restricted envelope, what has been l
> earned about whether the optimum C of G location would favor the forward lim
> it...?...or the aft limit...?...
>>>
>>> Comments most appreciated,
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>>> ics.com
>>> .com
>>> .matronics.com/contribution
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