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Re: Europa-List: Bleeding Monowheel Brakes: Curious?

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bleeding Monowheel Brakes: Curious?
From: david park <dpark748@icloud.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:21:54

Ron,
I adapted the Europa kit by cutting off the bottom part of the reservoir that 
screws
in to the master cylinder and attaching a plastic tube to it long enough
to reach a jam jar on the seat area, the tube being pushed thru a hole in the
lid.
Syringe fluid into calliper until no bubbles. I am converted to trike now and 
have
to do twice!!
If it's clear the excess in the jar can be reused.
Dave

Sent from my iPad

> On 12 Dec 2014, at 8:48 am, rparigoris <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Group
> 
> I have an XS Monowheel with stock caliper and master cylinder.
> 
> I purchased a bleed kit from Europa which includes a screw in funnel and 
> syringe,
but haven't quite gotten to bleeding brakes (closer than further though).
> 
> I was reading how some bicycles with single shot master cylinders bleed brakes
without making a much of a mess and getting out air in a hurry.
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> 1) Does Europas funnel and syringe do an adequate job?
> 
> 2) If the answer to question 1) is marginal, do you think bicycle bleed may 
> work
better?:
> I can scan and post exact procedure if anyone is interested (please just ask).
Gist is as follows:
> ** Bicycles use 2 syringes, one for caliper and one for caliper.
> ** The syringes both have a clamp/valve to close hose (squeeze hose and pinch
it off)
> ** The caliper syringe has a hose that will allow it to make a 180 degree 
> bend.
Idea is you keep hose straight with syringe at bottom of hose, close clamp,
pull vacuum, tap and let air rise to top of hose. Keep doing this until most
air bubbles gone. Then p[urge air and connect to caliper bleed.
> ** On this bike system they had you rubber-band lever fully depressed (I 
> didn't
ever look close enough at Europa to see if this is valid).
> They then connect a syringe to the opening of the master cylinder.
> ** They then clamp master cylinder syringe
> ** They then make a 180 bend on caliper syringe and begin pulling a vacuum and
pushing, tapping things along the way until you get most of the air stuck under
the syringe piston (clever!)
> ** Then they release clamp on master cylinder and push caliper syringe till 
> you
fill master cylinder syringe about half way
> ** Then clamp caliper syringe and begin pulling suction and pressurizing and
tapping master cylinder syringe until most bubbles gone
> ** Replace plug on caliper
> ** Top master cylinder and replace plug
> 
> OK, what says you? Stick with Europa system of bleeding, or bicycle technique
may have some validity? 
> 
> Sincerely
> Ron Parigoris
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435636#435636
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