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Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND NEW OVER TEMPERATURE DURING TAXI

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND NEW OVER TEMPERATURE DURING TAXI
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:48:55
I had thought I was the only one with sleepless nights.
Bud
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk<mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:51 AM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND NEW OVER TEMPERATURE 
DURING TAXI


"ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk<mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>" 
<ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk<mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>>

  Hi! Frans, Graham /all
  With comments about the Jabiru you are subjecting me to a nightmare 
  !!!!!!!!!!!! don't tempt me !
  Regards
  Bob Harrison G_PTAG

  >----Original Message----
  >From: 
grahamsingleton@btinternet.com<mailto:grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
  >Date: 15/04/2011 11:46 
  >To: <europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>>
  >Subj: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND 
  NEW OVER TEMPERATURE DURING  TAXI

  >

  >Frans

  >I think you are right, much more logical conclusions than mine !:-)

  >Agree about the Jabiru also, sad but geared and liquid cooled will 
  always have a 

  >performance advantage. More complication too of course but a more 
  sensible 

  >compromise I think.

  >regards

  >Graham

  >

  >

  >

  >

  >________________________________

  >From: Frans Veldman 
<frans@privatepilots.nl<mailto:frans@privatepilots.nl>>

  >To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>

  >Sent: Friday, 15 April, 2011 11:17:12

  >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND NEW OVER TEMPERATURE 
  DURING  

  >TAXI

  >

<frans@privatepilots<mailto:frans@privatepilots>.
  nl>

  >

  >On 04/15/2011 10:17 AM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:

  >

  >> To a certain extent the same thing happens with Rotax so the front

  >> cylinders get more fuel than the rear at some throttle settings, 
  drops

  >> of fuel don't turn corners the same as air molecules!

  >

  >I believe the "problem" with the Rotax is of a different nature. 
  There

  >are two carbs, and the inlet pulses are not equally distributed. Each

  >carb will see two inlet pulses in sequence, then followed by a long

  >pause when the cylinders on the other side (fed by the other carb) 
  have

  >their respective inlet pulses.

  >After the pause, the flow of fuel inside the nozzles is stalled. With

  >the first cylinder breathing, the fuel has to start moving again, and

  >the second cylinder has the benefit that the fuel is already up to

  >speed. So the second cylinder in the sequence receives a slightly 
  richer

  >mixture.

  >A solution can be to use a bigger bore balance tube. Some Italian

  >company is selling a pair of manifolds and balance tube for this

  >purpose, and the manifolds have already the bosses in them to mount 
  fuel

  >injectors for future upgrades (and using the carbs as fuelless 
  throttle

  >bodies and backup in case the EFI fails).

  >

  >Ok,the subject was "Jabiru". To keep it in the subject: After the 
  long

  >list of problems and disadvantages, can anybody enlighten me what the

  >benefit is of the Jab over the Rotax? (I assume there must be one, 
  why

  >else would anyone bother to install one?)

  >

  >Frans=================


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