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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: phones for flying
From: David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:13:31

Ira, I can find NavPro in my App store but not AirNavPro. Are we missing 
something in the UK? Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: phones for flying


>
> Greetings All,
>
> I've already posted several months back on my findings, using the
> iPad in a Europa.  I carry it with me on every non-local flight.
>
> On bright sunny days it is nearly impossible to read in the cockpit.
> It's too big to fit my thigh because it blocks lateral stick movement.
> I have no open space on my panel for it either. I was thinking about
> a stalk mount on the left side of the fuse. Has anyone found a better
> solution?  My current mode it to leave it in the pax seat and pick it
> up to read the screen.  I use it as a backup to my BlueMountain and for
> weather overlays.
>
> The same view problems for my iPhone 3gs.
> No cell phone will be different because they all use a very similar
> display technology and they must balance battery life against
> backlight brightness.
>
>
> The iOS devices clearly have the best and the largest selection of
> relevent, useful, easy to use in the cockpit software.
>
> If you buy a different smartphone platform, you will be gambling that
> the aviation software will arrive before the device goes obsolete.
>
> I have used almost all of the available in-flight apps for the phone/pad.
>
> Now that Apple officially allows 3rd party multitasking, I run both
> Foreflight and AirNavPro and flip between them.  AirNav has global 
> map/navaid coverage, btw.
>
> I no longer use Skycharts because it is far more cumbersome and slow.
> I reject WingX because its user interface is a dog and it is far more
> expensive.
>
> I reject Jepp and AirGuide for the same reasons
>
> What I have seen in Flying, P&P, Kitplanes, IFR etc about these apps is
> unreliable. No real reviews have appeared, what has been
> been printed have been re-written press releases from advertisers.
>
> The GPS chipset in the iPad is more sensitive than that in the iPhone 3gs,
> but not as sensitive as a Garmin dash-mount automotive like my Nuvi
> 255w.
>
> Here's a simple test, fly commercial transport a/c somewhere in a window
> seat. Fire up iPhone, iPad, and Nuvi next to window.  iPhone will rarely
> lock in flight, iPad will usually lock on (say 70-80% of time from cold 
> start),
> and Nuvi will always lock (at least I have not yet seen it fail).  There 
> are some iOS
> GPS oddities in the phone where a good lock prevails during
> taxi, takeoff and climb, then fails as if some groundspeed / altitude
> limit is in the software ( well above Europa performance profile!!).
>
> It was fun and gratifying however to track my progress over the mid
> atlantic at 520 kts gs and FL390 enroute to/from Rio last month on my
> iPad with AirNavPro.  Nine hour flight and the battery lasted the whole 
> trip
> with perhaps 75% duty cycle and dimmed screen.
>
> The next big thing ought to be georeferenced approach plates if the
> vendors decide that the outboard GPS modules are that much better than
> the iPad internal system.  I'd spring for an external gps in exchange
> for the live plates  :)
>
> Best Wishes for the New Year!
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324794#324794
>
>
> 



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