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Re: Europa-List: Constant Speed Props & Propeller twist.

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Constant Speed Props & Propeller twist.
From: David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:48:30
Fred, The twist of a blade along its length is fairly critical to engine 
cooling. Changing from a Woodcomp SR2000 with 12 degree twist to an SR3000W 
with about 26 degrees of twist has transformed my 914 cooling , totally 
eliminating the overheating on delayed take off or prolonged climbs. It has 
also added 4 kts to top speed and improved fuel consumption.
        As you can see from the attached mathematical analysis a 12 degree 
twist is optimised for air flow through  the prop of about 40 kts, which is 
what you get sitting on the ground  at about 1/2 throttle, before take off. 
At 100kts + you have negative AoAs in the central portion of the propeller, 
which doesn't help anything. It's no coincidence that all really fast planes 
(Spitfires, Red Bull racing planes, turboprops, etc) have props with twist 
more than 20 degrees. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Constant Speed Props, etc.


>
>
> On Mar 20, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Paul McAllister wrote:
>
>> I am not an aerodynamicst, not even an amature one but I was  wondering 
>> why you didn't think the  Kiev blades will be much of an  improvement 
>> over the Warp Drive blades.
>
> Bud,
>
> I too was surprised at your apparent skepticism as to whether those  Kiev 
> blades may offer improvement over the current WD blades in the  Airmaster 
> hub.
>
> I had several long emails w/ Martin on the subject...perhaps 2 years 
> ago...and my recollection is that he was quite candid about the WD  blades 
> being less than optimal given the flight envelope and length  limitations 
> of the blades for the Europa.  My understanding is that  the WD blade 
> stock is much longer, and when cut down to length  required, they lose 
> much of their twist...to such an extent I've read  that the inner portions 
> of the blades create negative thrust under  certain conditions. I've 
> speculated that the relative lack of twist  may be a factor in engine 
> cooling...just speculation, I have, of  course, no direct experience.
>
> Assuming that the "432" references a new hub, I hope it's available  with 
> other than a Rotax flange.
>
> Fred
>
>
> 


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