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Re: Europa-List: Stall Spin

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stall Spin
From: Chris Beck <n9zes@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:34:03

Actually, Ira, I didn't make the quoted comment you reference to.  That 
was someone else.

I only made reference to the stalling habits of 152's that I've flown.

Chris

irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu wrote:

>
>  Chris Beck writes:
>
> >>All the recent correspondence following the tragedy at Oshkosh seems 
> to point to
> >>a basic instability with the Europa. Is this inherent in the design 
> or due to
> >>building errors?Trimming ailerons to achieve smooth integration with 
> the wing
>
>
> Sorry Chris,
>
> Your comments are unfortunately uninformed.
>
> Keeping aside our personal feelings of loss for an active member of 
> this online community, the subject
> aircraft was observed by many to be slow in the pattern and to have 
> overshot the base to final turn.
> This is a classic scenario for a cross controlled spin entry, which is 
> exactly what happened, according
> to multiple pilot witnesses.  I can not say I saw it happen at the 
> approach end of 27, since I was
> having breakfast midfield along 36 when it happened, but word travels 
> fast.
>
> By no means is this phenomena exclusive to Europas as you imply.  I 
> guarantee you that a quick scan
> of the NTSB database will reveal dozens of C140/150/152 accidents of 
> identical origin.  If Europas were
> the only a/c to drop a wing in a cross controlled stall, why then does 
> every text on flying devote
> considerable space to this scenario?
>



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