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Re: RE: Europa-List: woodcomp/kremen props [was: conventional gear]

Subject: Re: RE: Europa-List: woodcomp/kremen props [was: conventional gear]
From: Michel Auvray <mau11@free.fr>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:49:24

Bonjour R.C.Harrison,
I think it is normal to promoting the propeller of their choice. It is not the
problem.
The french administration recognize only kit manufacturer autorities.
Our problem is an authorized letter to use this propeller on 912 from Europa to
the DGAC.
Not a letter with experiment report. It is the same for sensennish, or others 
propellers
mfg.
 bientt, 

======= le 30/11/2005, 15:37:31 vous criviez: =======

>
>Hi! Michel.
>I REALLY don't think you are entitled to decry Europa for promoting the
>propeller of their choice.  Would you "shoot yourself in the foot"?
>Seems to me that your own authority has it's head up it's anus.
>You should make an approach to Kremen and and get the French Authorities
>to re-examine their "eyes closed attitude.
>Regards
>Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 MT CS Prop.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
>Auvray
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: woodcomp/kremen props [was: conventional gear]
>
>
>Bonjour Rowland,
>I use a SR2000 on my aircraft since 9 month the result is good.
>
>But the problem in France is French civil aviation administration (DGAC)
>they recognize only the kit manufacturer not the PFA.
>To day this propeller is not recognize by Europa because they sales
>Airmaster propeller, and the company do not give a letter to the French
>administration to use the woodcomp propeller, and to day we are grounded
>with this propeller. 
>In France many ultralight aircraft use this propeller with 912. Sames
>engine same propeller.
>But with Europa aircraft is no authorised for the reason explained on
>top.
>
>What solution do we have?
>
>I think this attitude is a high brakes and contrary the sales of many
>kits aircraft. 
>Now mainly of the customers buy ultralight aircraft. The sales exploded
>in France mainly for the non open attitude of kit manufacturers in
>accordance with aviation administration.
>
>Personnally I am satisfied of my aircraft, but my next aircraft is not
>Europa for this attitude.
> bientt, 
>Michel AUVRAY 
>Builder N145  "F-PFGT"
>
>======= le 28/11/2005, 22:12:00 vous criviez: =======
>
>>
>>
>>>Are you able (and willing) to mail me a survey of the Europa's that 
>>>are flying with a  912S Rotax engine and a Woodcomp (or Kremen) 
>>>propeller type SR 200 (3 blades)
>>
>>I have sent a fuller response direct to Jack. As far as I know, the 
>>only Europas that have flown with any type of Kremen/Woodcomp 
>>propellers are:
>>
>>F-PSLY 912
>>G-XSDJ 914
>>HB-YIE 912S
>>OK-EUR 914
>>
>>(I just remembered that Tim Houlihan's G-BZTH with a 912 is getting 
>>one fitted, but not sure if it has flown or been cleared for flight 
>>with it yet.)
>>
>>In addition to Jack, builders 402, 438, 486, 529, 556, A064, A061 all 
>>plan to fit Kremen/Woodcomp props of some type.
>>
>>If anyone knows of any other Europas fitted with Kremen/Woodcomp 
>>props, please let us know!
>>
>>regards
>>
>>Rowland
>>-- 
>>| Rowland Carson (retiring) Europa Club Membership Secretary - email
>for info!
>>| Europa 435 G-ROWI (750 hours building)  PFA #16532
>>| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
>>
>>
>
>= = = = = = = = = ========= = = = = = = = = =                         
>Michel Auvray
>mau11@free.fr
>30/11/2005
>
>

= = = = = = = = = ========= = = = = = = = = =                         
Michel Auvray
mau11@free.fr
01/12/2005



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