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Subject: RE: Europa-List: wheel landings
From: Jim Thursby <jthursby@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 08:01:44

Hi Kingsley, 
 If done properly the tail wheel will be on the ground first.  Then you
"simply" feel the plane out with the stick until its ready to quit. all the
while keeping it straight and level.  You'll feel it when its done and then
you can pin it full back and it stays planted.  Interesting point about a
tail wheel first landing.  While on a cross country to the Arlington air
show in 2000 with Jim and Augustine Brown we landed at Gillette Wyoming
which has a 7% upslope/down slope in the runway.  After I got the tail wheel
on the ground I had rolled what seemed like 3,000 feet of a 7,500 foot
runway on the tail wheel only,  I had to cut the ignitions in order to get
it to quit flying!  Jim reported a similar experience when he landed.  Very
weird feeling.

 Jim T.

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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst
Subject: Re: Europa-List: wheel landings

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> BUT the answer to the monwheel Europa is that it should be landed on 
> the stall, so that the she's not flying when you touch.

Hello Ferg and others,

With the sum total of a couple of landings in a mono, I speak from
observation rather than experience.

When people talk about stalling the mono on landing (the ideal thing to do
IMHO), I cannot help but wonder how the mono CAN stall unless the tail wheel
only is on the ground and the main wheel considerably above.  My reasoning
is that because the deck angle of the fuse (with main and tail wheels on the
ground) is around 7 degrees from memory.  (too lazy to check the manual at
the moment) and the wing incidence is 2.5 degrees, this means the angle of
attack of the wings with both wheels on the ground is around 9.5 degrees. 
If I remember correctly, a wing stalls with an AOA of around 14 degrees. 
Considering that when landing the wing is also in the influence of 'ground
effect', can somebody explain to me how the wing can possibly properly stall
with such a low AOA ?

Cheers
Kingsley 



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