europa-list
[Top] [All Lists]

Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/01/03

Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/01/03
From: Steven Pitt <steven.pitt@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 21:26:06

I called the factory when I found I was short of engine parts and they sent
me what was missing. It depends on when you got your engine from the factory
as to how the error happened.
Steve Pitt #403
----- Original Message -----
From: "Europa-List Digest Server" <europa-list-digest@matronics.com>
Subject: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/01/03


> *
>
>  ==================================================
>    Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>  ==================================================
>
> Today's complete Europa-List Digest can be also be found in either
> of the two Web Links listed below.  The .html file includes the Digest
> formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
> Indexes and Message Navigation.  The .txt file includes the plain ASCII
> version of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic
> text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list/Digest.Europa-List.2003-08-01.ht
ml
>
> Text Version:
>
>
http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list/Digest.Europa-List.2003-08-01.tx
t
>
>
>  ================================================
>    EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
>  ================================================
>
>
>                            Europa-List Digest Archive
>                                       ---
>                      Total Messages Posted Fri 08/01/03: 6
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
>      1. 02:41 AM - Pin or Cable Eyes for Thimbles????  (Tony Renshaw)
>      2. 05:56 AM - Re: Pin or Cable Eyes for Thimbles????  (Kevin
Klinefelter)
>      3. 07:34 AM - Re: Fin appears to be twisted  (Fred Fillinger)
>      4. 12:55 PM - Re: Fin appears to be twisted  (Michael Parkin)
>      5. 08:14 PM - Mounting the 914  (Steve Hagar)
>      6. 08:14 PM - Mounting the 914  (Steve Hagar)
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 1
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: Europa-List: Pin or Cable Eyes for Thimbles????
>
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Gidday,
> I am in the process of sorting out some turnbuckles and would like to know
> for the cable thimbles if I need cable eyes or pin eyes? The difference is
> the internal curve on the cable eye, which I would think more ideal for
> distributing forces onto the turnbuckle. I am setting up the tailplane
mass
> balance weight with a pair, and intend on having the turnbuckles forward
> spliced in with nicopress, and nicopress alone at the aft end. Similarly I
> will be using the same turnbuckles, the MS Clip-Lock Variety for my rudder
> setup.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 2
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pin or Cable Eyes for Thimbles????
>
>
> Hi Tony, I believe cable eyes are what you are supposed to use for cable
> thimbles. I used AN bolts to attach the turnbuckle to the mass balance
arm,
> then cables attached with thimbles to the rear. I suppose I should have
used
> pin eyes for the forward bolted end of the turnbuckle, but I used cable
> eyes.
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw
> Subject: Europa-List: Pin or Cable Eyes for Thimbles????
>
> <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Gidday,
> I am in the process of sorting out some turnbuckles and would like to know
> for the cable thimbles if I need cable eyes or pin eyes? The difference is
> the internal curve on the cable eye, which I would think more ideal for
> distributing forces onto the turnbuckle. I am setting up the tailplane
mass
> balance weight with a pair, and intend on having the turnbuckles forward
> spliced in with nicopress, and nicopress alone at the aft end. Similarly I
> will be using the same turnbuckles, the MS Clip-Lock Variety for my rudder
> setup.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 3
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: Fred Fillinger <fillinger@ameritech.net>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fin appears to be twisted
>
<fillinger@ameritech.net>
>
> Mine is like that, and proper Europa did that -- it cancels out
> propeller P-effect which exists in cruise also.  Without the twist,
> deflected rudder, plus a deflected trim tab to keep it there, would be
> needed, which would be draggier.  They say airplanes are a bunch of
> design compromises flying in loose formation...one example of many.
>
> Best,
> Fred F.
>
> > Heres a question I would welcome more than one response to. While
standing
> > behind my Europa about 10 feet, sighting in and centering the top of the
fin
> > to the space between the doors in the top of the fuselage, I have
noticed
> > that just the top front of the fin appears to be 1 to 2 degrees towards
> > port. Keeping in mind the fin is completed and the rudder is temporarily
> > mounted. The sternpost and rudder are perfectly straight. Since I dont
have
> > an engine mounted yet and its a tri gear you can notice it more with the
> > tail down. Could any of you look at yours to see if I am the only one
with
> > this phenomenon? This may be a blessing in climb out but a big cruse
> > problem, or maybe a designed in the fin. Or maybe I did something wrong
but
> > I cant imagine what, as the top went on without any problems.
> >
> > Thanks in advance to any one that can check their plane,
> >
> > Jeff Roberts
> > Tri A258
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 4
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Michael Parkin" <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fin appears to be twisted
>
<Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
>
> Jeff,
>
> Yep, mine is worse than 1-2degs - it flies really fine - press on!!
>
> regards,
>
> Mike Parkin   G-JULZ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Roberts" <jeff@rmmm.net>
> Subject: Europa-List: Fin appears to be twisted
>
>
> >
> > Heres a question I would welcome more than one response to. While
standing
> > behind my Europa about 10 feet, sighting in and centering the top of the
> fin
> > to the space between the doors in the top of the fuselage, I have
noticed
> > that just the top front of the fin appears to be 1 to 2 degrees towards
> > port. Keeping in mind the fin is completed and the rudder is temporarily
> > mounted. The sternpost and rudder are perfectly straight. Since I dont
> have
> > an engine mounted yet and its a tri gear you can notice it more with the
> > tail down. Could any of you look at yours to see if I am the only one
with
> > this phenomenon? This may be a blessing in climb out but a big cruse
> > problem, or maybe a designed in the fin. Or maybe I did something wrong
> but
> > I cant imagine what, as the top went on without any problems.
> >
> > Thanks in advance to any one that can check their plane,
> >
> >
> > Jeff Roberts
> > Tri A258
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 5
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Europa-List: Mounting the 914
>
>
> I was all ready to have an engine mounting party this weekend and have
> found a discrepancy. The manual and the accompanying illustration call for
> An5-40 bolts to mount the engine to landing gear frame.  No bolts to be
> found.  However there was no listing on any bill of materials for these
> either.  Have others had to buy these as extra hardware? So I guess its a
> call to AC Spruce.  The verbage in the manual calls for - 41 bolts,
however
> the diagram in the manual calls for -40's. Which gives a better fitup?
> Input would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> --- Steve Hagar
> --- hagargs@earthlink.net
> A143
> Mesa,Az
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 6
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Europa-List: Mounting the 914
>
>
> I was all ready to have an engine mounting party this weekend and have
> found a discrepancy. The manual and the accompanying illustration call for
> An5-40 bolts to mount the engine to landing gear frame.  No bolts to be
> found.  However there was no listing on any bill of materials for these
> either.  Have others had to buy these as extra hardware? So I guess its a
> call to AC Spruce.  The verbage in the manual calls for - 41 bolts,
however
> the diagram in the manual calls for -40's. Which gives a better fitup?
> Input would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> --- Steve Hagar
> --- hagargs@earthlink.net
> A143
> Mesa,Az
>
>




<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>
  • Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/01/03, Steven Pitt <=