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Re: Europa-List: firewall penetrations

Subject: Re: Europa-List: firewall penetrations
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:41:54
Fred,
Been there, done that, got the T shirt.
  Pontificating now:
  I hate learning the hard way, and it takes so long to research 
everything, what can we do?  I have always believed it is good to trust 
but verify.
  Many times what is one guys standard is another guys unacceptable.  
Problem is, in kit aircraft, in most of the world, there are no 
standards we can go to.
  I fall back on my background, such as mil spec wire, better than 
standard fuel hose, but I do not change the fuel or electrical fittings 
---From the kitplane/engine manufacturer unless it has been proven by a 
number of kit builders as deficient.   I look at copying ideas from 
aircraft builders with long reputations for excellence.  If a guy 
doesn't fly what he builds, I stay away from him and his plane.  You 
wouldn't take flying lessons from someone who had only read about 
flying.  However, you can't discount their opinions, as they may have 
done more research than you, so recheck their research before using.

  I recommend researching the techniques and practices of known 
technicians such as, Bob Knuckles' Aeroelectric Connection, for wiring 
(but I hate spade connectors), FAA AC 43-13 Acceptable Methods and 
Practices, and of course the EAA books on building / how to's and or the 
writings of Ron Alexander with the Sport Air Workshops, are also great 
sources.  But none of these gives you all the answers.  Bottom line is 
we build kit aircraft like the FAA regulations say "for our own 
enjoyment and education".  Pete Rafferty taught me how to crimp, but I 
learned by practice and research that all connectors are not equal, nor 
are crimping tools.  Crimping verses soldering depends on your skill, 
and putting a 26 gauge wire in a connector designed for an 18 doesn't 
work well.  Over crimping is worse than under-crimping, too much heat 
wicks the solder under the insulation and the wire may crack under the 
insulation and you will go nuts trying to find it.

  Automotive engine wiring is probably just fine.  Let's face it, what 
most have is good to about 100C and mil spec is good to 200C, neither of 
them flame up when exposed to flame.  So if the heat gets that bad under 
the cowl (in the summer time after engine shut down it is not uncommon 
to get over 100C), you know the wire won't break down because it doesn't 
in a car.  Just wrap the really critical non sensor wire that keeps the 
engine running and run your bundles far enough from the engine block and 
headers to ensure the wires are not compromised.  Summit Racing and 
other hot rod suppliers have super heat shield for wire.  If it works in 
a race car, it will work in an airplane.

  Anyway, this will make a topic for another President's corner in the 
EAA chapter newsletter.  
Bud
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fred Klein<mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com> 
  To: Bud Yerly<mailto:budyerly@msn.com> 
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: firewall penetrations


  On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Bud Yerly wrote:


    Fred,

    I think he meant GPT wire which is common.


  Bud...after reading your email & checkin out Allied & comparing w/ 
mil-spec 22759...


  I think I'm hearin myself muttering a 4 letter word beginning w/ "F" & 
it ain't Fred.


  Thanks so much,


  Fred


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